For a whole 30 seconds of fight action?
The slap fight was more entertaining than any of the boxing matches.
Pirates who illegally streamed Jake Paul v Ben Askren targeted in lawsuit
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Re: Pirates who illegally streamed Jake Paul v Ben Askren targeted in lawsuit
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They aren't analogous to physical property. They can trivially be disposed of without any effect on the functioning of physical property. At best they require their own justification.
Physical property is a government-granted right, with the caveat that if they stop enforcing it you can do that yourself with violence. If you stop paying property tax you will eventually lose your property.
Its a government granted resolution to something that absolutely must be resolved one way or the other. We can't both eat the sandwich. IP is a different class of imposition.
Re: Pirates who illegally streamed Jake Paul v Ben Askren targeted in lawsuit
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Indeed they do. For example my hard drive belongs to me and yours to you. There is no way I can arrange the pattern of magnetic ones and zeros such that it magically becomes YOUR property in any way that any proponent of traditional property would understand. That is to say imaginary property is a set of restrictions on how I am allowed to use my actual property. This restriction is supposed to be justified by societ…
"That is to say imaginary property is a set of restrictions on how I am allowed to use my actual property." No. You yourself are not re-arranging any bits. Your computer receives bits, then decodes them, and plays them. There is no "re-arrange bits exactly like this album" button. You wouldn't say that LPs are "placing restrictions on your record player". The artist may no longer have that specific product, but you c…
The point is that the user is in fact now able to rearrange the grooves on the record like magic and the artist wants to limit their way to do this if the user rearranges the grooves in a way that match their own work.
Re: Pirates who illegally streamed Jake Paul v Ben Askren targeted in lawsuit
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
"That is to say imaginary property is a set of restrictions on how I am allowed to use my actual property." No. You yourself are not re-arranging any bits. Your computer receives bits, then decodes them, and plays them. There is no "re-arrange bits exactly like this album" button. You wouldn't say that LPs are "placing restrictions on your record player". The artist may no longer have that specific product, but you c…
The point is that the user is in fact now able to rearrange the grooves on the record like magic and the artist wants to limit their way to do this if the user rearranges the grooves in a way that match their own work.
No, the user can't do that. They can't do that with records, and they can't do that with bits either.
Users can -download- specific bits and play them via decoding, and that's about it. Nobody can actually re-arrange anything themselves, although one could spend their life trying to manually flip bits to magically recreate it in the same manner. Good luck.
The artist isn't limiting anything other than sharing those pre-made bits without a license/permission. And that is not unreasonable. My stance on this is referring to works of art as merely "bits" for the sake of argument is a bit ridiculous. We don't refer to LPs as "a collection of atoms", etc.
Referring to art or products in general as "just bits" is just being pedantic for the sake of winning an argument.
Re: Pirates who illegally streamed Jake Paul v Ben Askren targeted in lawsuit
#55The follow up to this: https://torrentfreak.com/triller-offers-amnesty-to-pirates-c...