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Sugar-sweetened beverage intake and serum testosterone levels in adult males (2018)

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WalterGR wrote: post #112
101001001001 wrote: post #111

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I didn’t get my opinion from a paper. I got it from reading countless papers. Figure it out for yourself

So no evidence. Got it.

There are mountains of evidence. It gets overlooked because of the momentum of dogma and the entangling of politics, dogma and research grants/funding. And it’s spread out over many, many individual topics and issues. It doesn’t lend itself to a comment or a single literature review.

I will explain exactly how you can see for yourself. You only have to do one thing. Simply try to understand for yourself the biological underpinnings of human disease. Try to understand it for yourself. This will involve cracking open a biochemistry textbook. It’s not a trivial matter.

It started for me when I got to a certain age and said to myself, gee, I’m getting to the age where I should understand heart disease. So I googled heart disease. And I kept going down the rabbit hole. Luckily I already had a background in biology and chemistry. Believe it or not, that single decision ultimately unraveled into the opinion expressed in my original comment.

I am looking forward to what you find. Happy trails.

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Post by brian_cunnie »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #107
brian_cunnie wrote: post #81

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I ate more sugar than anyone I knew, and in 2011 I was diagnosed with type II diabetes. I had no family history of diabetes, I was never overweight, and was always athletic. Admittedly, this is a sample set of 1, but I remain convinced that my voracious appetite for sugar played into my diagnosis. I no longer eat sugar (with the exception of fruit).

Could prediabetes have caused your craving for sweets? It happens even without family history.

I doubt that pre-diabetes caused my craving because I always loved sweets. As a kid I would sometimes eat raw sugar.

I was only diagnosed pre-diabetic (fasting glucose > 100) the last year before I blossomed into a full-blown diabetic.

My parents were pretty strict about sweets, but once I was on my own my diet quickly spiraled into an orgy of chocolate & sugar.

Re: Sugar-sweetened beverage intake and serum testosterone levels in adult males (2018)

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Jiocus wrote: post #74
stryan wrote: post #29

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Is there a study about that? I'd love to see more info on difference in health effects between fountain soda vs bottled/canned.

I think this is a misconception. It's not about the fountain vs canned or bottle soda. Carbon dioxide lowers the pH of a drink to 4.5, which is acidic. The acid pH level erodes teeth and one shouldn't brush their teeth too soon after drinking soda because the enamel can be damaged. (Edit: acid on your teeth is always bad, brushing or not.) Getting a soft drink from a fountain often means getting a straw for your cup…

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phonypc wrote: post #92
Jiocus wrote: post #74

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I think this is a misconception. It's not about the fountain vs canned or bottle soda. Carbon dioxide lowers the pH of a drink to 4.5, which is acidic. The acid pH level erodes teeth and one shouldn't brush their teeth too soon after drinking soda because the enamel can be damaged. (Edit: acid on your teeth is always bad, brushing or not.) Getting a soft drink from a fountain often means getting a straw for your cup…

The pH of soft drinks is more typically in the range 2-4, due to the addition of various acids. And the negative effect of soft drinks on dental health is primarily from the action of acid-producing bacteria metabolizing sugar. Diet drinks aren't nearly as bad for your teeth, carbonated water barely has any effect.

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Post by jack9 »

Jiocus wrote: post #74
stryan wrote: post #29

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Is there a study about that? I'd love to see more info on difference in health effects between fountain soda vs bottled/canned.

I think this is a misconception. It's not about the fountain vs canned or bottle soda. Carbon dioxide lowers the pH of a drink to 4.5, which is acidic. The acid pH level erodes teeth and one shouldn't brush their teeth too soon after drinking soda because the enamel can be damaged. (Edit: acid on your teeth is always bad, brushing or not.) Getting a soft drink from a fountain often means getting a straw for your cup…

Canned soda ph2.5 and is a solution

Fountain soda ph6.5 to ph8.5 and is a suspension

The differences are stark.

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Post by papandada »

mizzack wrote: post #117
papandada wrote: post #45

As a 41 year old man getting remarried, I'm personally interested in the subject of serum testosterone. I have noticed a sharp decline the past couple years and I'm sure aging plus computer job plus covid is a noxious blend. General advice out there includes lower stress, lose weight, keep active, get sleep, weightlifting is good, cardio is good but maybe not too much, IF may be good. Scientific studies are good but…

> lower stress, lose weight, keep active, get sleep, weightlifting is good, cardio is good but maybe not too much, IF may be good It's annoying that these things seem like hand-wavy common sense advice for improving general health and not just raising T, but they are interrelated and helpful when it comes to boosting T. Lowering stress reduces cortisol, which is catabolic. Your note about too much cardio plays in her…

I'm late but thanks very much for sharing your experience, and helpful explanations.
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