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Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Where is this money going? How are these prices set? I looked up a four letter .com I have and it’s $2400. Why?

Other domains aren’t available yet.

NFTs for names is a really good idea but it seems like the novelty is in getting acceptance and trust. Not sure why a random org should get really substantial fees for names. For ICANN we’re forced to. But for a good blockchain solution the prices should be equitable.

I understand that reselling goes to the owner, but this seems like a cash grab.

That and many domains like common first names aren’t available yet.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Opera is beyond rescue. As someone who spent a decade working there it saddens me to say so, but please don't use it. Actual, executive day-to-day control over the browser tech has progressed sort of like this: 1995: Oslo, Norway 2008: Linköping, Sweden 2014: Wrocław, Poland 2020: Beijing, PRC (the sale happened in 2016, but they were hands-off for quite some time; I think they were being busy with shady fintech stuf…

Opera in the late 90s / early 00s was such a great browser though. It was one of the first to adopt tabs, had a very responsive and slick UI compared to the competition, and the rendering engine was fast and fluid, though sadly not well supported or compatible. Even the built-in email client was decent, and much better than the one in Netscape Communicator from what I remember. Being share/adware was always a problem, but it was my main browser for a couple of years back then. Opera Mini was also excellent on pre-iPhone devices.

Nowadays I wouldn't come near it, mostly because it's proprietary software owned by a company with shady business practices.

Still, this is great news and should be applauded FWIW.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

#54

Why on earth do you want to decentralize personal belongings? I absolutely want my possessions centralized, in storage locations I own. That is the much more obvious solution than putting personal possessions on a blockchain. If you want to store digital tokens for your kids that you can be reasonably assured will still be there when they become adults, use thumb drives. Keep them in a fireproof safe if you're really…

> my mom has managed to keep all the videos and photos of key events in my childhood safe and intact for 40 years without having to put them on a public distributed ledger No offense, but in all likelihood no one is attempting to counterfeit or pirate your Mom's videos and photos of your childhood, and ownership/p2p ownership transfers are not material. There are almost infinite real world examples were ownership rec…

> Usually the "Dole" case is the most famous example, where you have a publicly traded company with all the benefits of corporate record keeping, stock trusts and banks, and centralized stock exchanges, but when the buyer went to take it private low and behold the public company with all the centralized safe guards in the world should have had a total capitalization of 36M shared but somehow had about 49M share issued, it only ended up in $150M in damages, but this could not have happened using blockchain and most agree nearly every publicly traded company likely would have the same inconsistencies.

This sounds like a technology problem for which a public blockchain is but one possible solution. Surely other append-only log data structures exist which could step in to fill this void.

AFAICT the main issue with crypto equities — and all other similar constructs — is what happens when a court of law overrides them. If a court says your ex owns half of the shares in $WALLET, but the blockchain doesn’t, and $COMPANY which issued the shares is also subject to the whims of the court, then what are we to do about this?

OTOH maybe this rabbit hole really just never ends until courts are also somehow replaced by a public blockchain, likely at the behest of the very biased investors who stand to disproportionately profit from this game.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

#55

People have been trying to make alternate-root DNS systems a thing for 20+ years, it has never caught on.

What annoys me is that there is no easy way to change DNS servers. Try on IOS, or Android and you'll find it such a hassle being hidden within other scary network settings. Windows you need to click through five different features and not forgetting that DNS is an alien word to most. Try and explain it in the simplest of ways such as "a phone book for computers" you've just bored the subject to death

I use OpenNIC and know how to navigate around my router. However for my mother, that's a whole different story.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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It would be cool if Opera published presto's source code. Even just for historical reasons. I'm sure there's legal and financial reasons they don't. I was a huge fan and tried to convert my friends from 2004-2012. It was tough watching them slowly convert to firefox or stay on IE. It really didn't help that Opera handled transparency so poorly. That made myspace pretty much unusable.

The Presto source code was leaked around 2017, FWIW. There's a handful of mirrors around, including: https://git.teknik.io/Zero3K/presto

This is awesome, thanks!

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

#57

Why on earth do you want to decentralize personal belongings? I absolutely want my possessions centralized, in storage locations I own. That is the much more obvious solution than putting personal possessions on a blockchain. If you want to store digital tokens for your kids that you can be reasonably assured will still be there when they become adults, use thumb drives. Keep them in a fireproof safe if you're really…

> my mom has managed to keep all the videos and photos of key events in my childhood safe and intact for 40 years without having to put them on a public distributed ledger No offense, but in all likelihood no one is attempting to counterfeit or pirate your Mom's videos and photos of your childhood, and ownership/p2p ownership transfers are not material. There are almost infinite real world examples were ownership rec…

What happens when the blockchain does not reflect the actual legal situation of ownership? For example, assuming a classic blockchain model where my property deed is given to me as a private key, and I have to sign the transaction to transfer the property, what happens when I lose the key and yet the city has expropriated my lot to build a park? This seems to require the authorities to have some kind of master key or ability to retroactively edit the blockchain. Which negates much of the security advantage of a blockchain model?

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Blockchain technology only became popular in the last decade and, as much as it has become a meme at this point, DNS is actually one of the best use cases for it. The current DNS is distributed, but highly centralized, and paying renewal fees for keeping a record in a file and a server running feels like extortion. An immutable, consistent and decentralized storage system solves those issues, and I can pay once and t…

How does the name get reclaimed when you lose the key or die? Do we just accept that it's possible for domain names to be forever unusable?

That's a fair point, and I don't have an answer. Presumably there would be enough TLDs to ensure a unique name is not as important, as it's just a short label anyway. Maybe there could be an expiration or some kind of override mechanism built into the protocol, though I'm not familiar with NFTs to know if this is feasible.

I'm not saying there wouldn't be challenges with this approach, but it seems worth a try if it means replacing an outdated and vulnerable system.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Opera is beyond rescue. As someone who spent a decade working there it saddens me to say so, but please don't use it. Actual, executive day-to-day control over the browser tech has progressed sort of like this: 1995: Oslo, Norway 2008: Linköping, Sweden 2014: Wrocław, Poland 2020: Beijing, PRC (the sale happened in 2016, but they were hands-off for quite some time; I think they were being busy with shady fintech stuf…

Any specific reasons to not use Opera? I actually just switched this week, being fed up with Firefox. So far so good. I very much like the UI/UX. I hope this isn't just another case of "China bad". Edit: Ah, I see the link you added. So the new owners seem shady.

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