New evidence that British workplaces are losing viewpoint diversity

Post by scruple » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 4:29 PM UTC

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> Social media did a lot to foster outrage and destroy nuanced thinking. Way before social media, there was short wave radio, then cable news which introduced the 24-hour news cycle, and entertainment-shows-disguised-as-news with their permanently outraged talking heads (think Rachel Maddow or Tucker Carlson). Political polarization is older than social media, and it wasn't emergent - it was a deliberate political ta…

> Political polarization is older than social media Yes, it was widely reported in debates in ancient Athens and the Roman empire. But I wrote "Social media did a lot to foster outrage and destroy nuanced thinking.", which is different. Humanity has never seen before a billion-dollar industry generating user engagement by fueling online altercation. Instant gratification, dopamine cycle addiction and all of that.

Post by giantg2 » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 4:31 PM UTC

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I can see pressure if the woman (or any first-of) is one of the first in their role/job to do well and represent their subgroup. This of course implies that there is a stereotype to overcome, which I see as a very small minority sentiment today. I didn't notice any stereotyping related to women in my classes. Also, in my masters courses the gender mix was probably 60% male 40% female. There is a lot at play, and ther…

And what you have done, I am willing to bet, is use your own individual experiences to draw conclusions for the wider world. My own personal experience is that this is almost never a good idea (see what I did there). This is not a values judgment, or meant to be hateful at all, really. This paragraph reads as if you are saying, "I've never seen it, so it doesn't exist."

Post by giantg2 » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 4:36 PM UTC

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I think mortality/danger is an interesting axis: https://www.statista.com/statistics/187078/occupational-inju... If, by being a man, you are 10x more likely to die from your job, and you are 10x more likely to die younger, should society compensate for your fewer hours lived? If no, why would society decide to undervalue males?

The question is why those careers earn less money. Your assertion is that the careers men choose are more dangerous, so those careers earn more. My question is, are dangerous careers well paid? Here are the totals for occupational deaths: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cfoi.t03.htm ~25% for Transportation and material moving occupations ~20% for Construction ~10% for Installation, maintenance, and repair occupation…

Post by telchar » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 4:45 PM UTC

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As a sort of counterpoint, I think it might be worth it to watch a classic of the 'free debate' genre, Buckley vs Baldwin[1], that happened in the sixties in Cambridge. It pitted a black civil rights activist against the young Buckley, later a stalwart of American conservatism. I don't know if it's my bias speaking, but I felt that in the debate, Buckley comes across as a bully, with very little argumentative meat, w…

Instead of agitating for exclusion, agitate for more inclusion, e.g. demand both. People living lives of ‘or’ forget that ‘and’ exists.

Post by koheripbal » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 4:48 PM UTC

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> Only nine percent of the British adults we surveyed described politics as “very important” to their sense of identity, and only 22 percent had shared any political content on their social channels in the previous year > When it comes to speaking their minds at work, one of these tribes—home of the “Progressive Activist”—is not like the others. “A powerful and vocal group for whom politics is at the core of their id…