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RotaJakiro: A long live secret backdoor with 0 VT detection

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Re: RotaJakiro: A long live secret backdoor with 0 VT detection

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post #7

It's systemd-daemon . The authors knew that systemd was so huge and opaque that it'd go unnoticed. It even has its own systemd unit file. It doesn't even do "normal" rootkit level of hiding that rootkit detectors might notice; it just hides in plain site as an innocent root process, right out in the open.

Probably a good choice running as "systemd-whatever". People have lost track of all the systemd pieces as it's grown in scope, so it doesn't look immediately suspicious.

Re: RotaJakiro: A long live secret backdoor with 0 VT detection

#12
post #6

Pardon me if it's a stupid question, but a backdoor to what? I don't really understand what it's about. In my mind a backdoor is hidden feature built into another _useful_ piece of software. Is this "just a backdoor"? Like, its sole purpose is to give remote access / exfiltrate information? If so, how does it end up on systems? What is the vector?

it's a virus. lol. there are many ways to get them onto systems. file download site, typosquatted apt/pip package names, buying/hacking a download mirror website, 0-day browser exploits, etc.

Re: RotaJakiro: A long live secret backdoor with 0 VT detection

#13
post #6

Pardon me if it's a stupid question, but a backdoor to what? I don't really understand what it's about. In my mind a backdoor is hidden feature built into another _useful_ piece of software. Is this "just a backdoor"? Like, its sole purpose is to give remote access / exfiltrate information? If so, how does it end up on systems? What is the vector?

This is what you drop on a system after it's compromised for use later, it's a RAT. It gets there via some kind of compromise, either an insecure application, some drive-by exploit for some missing patch, owning a sysadmin and pushing it out via ansible/salt/etc.

Got it thanks!

Re: RotaJakiro: A long live secret backdoor with 0 VT detection

#14
post #12
post #6

Pardon me if it's a stupid question, but a backdoor to what? I don't really understand what it's about. In my mind a backdoor is hidden feature built into another _useful_ piece of software. Is this "just a backdoor"? Like, its sole purpose is to give remote access / exfiltrate information? If so, how does it end up on systems? What is the vector?

it's a virus. lol. there are many ways to get them onto systems. file download site, typosquatted apt/pip package names, buying/hacking a download mirror website, 0-day browser exploits, etc.

err, no it's not a virus, it seems it has no ability to reproduce on its own.

Re: RotaJakiro: A long live secret backdoor with 0 VT detection

#15
post #11
post #7

It's systemd-daemon . The authors knew that systemd was so huge and opaque that it'd go unnoticed. It even has its own systemd unit file. It doesn't even do "normal" rootkit level of hiding that rootkit detectors might notice; it just hides in plain site as an innocent root process, right out in the open.

Probably a good choice running as "systemd-whatever". People have lost track of all the systemd pieces as it's grown in scope, so it doesn't look immediately suspicious.

That's pretty much what I said.. ;)

Re: RotaJakiro: A long live secret backdoor with 0 VT detection

#16
This is pretty cool, but I keep waiting until someone finds a horribly malicious version of bash that hides processes, directories and so on unless you have a specific env var set.. It could even detect when you do a update and just copy itself back over the new version, since almost all updates are being applied under a shell somewhere (may need a malicious python also then..)

Re: RotaJakiro: A long live secret backdoor with 0 VT detection

#17
post #7

It's systemd-daemon . The authors knew that systemd was so huge and opaque that it'd go unnoticed. It even has its own systemd unit file. It doesn't even do "normal" rootkit level of hiding that rootkit detectors might notice; it just hides in plain site as an innocent root process, right out in the open.

Other malware has hidden itself as init, mysqld, php-fpm, etc. This is really nothing new.

Re: RotaJakiro: A long live secret backdoor with 0 VT detection

#19
post #7

It's systemd-daemon . The authors knew that systemd was so huge and opaque that it'd go unnoticed. It even has its own systemd unit file. It doesn't even do "normal" rootkit level of hiding that rootkit detectors might notice; it just hides in plain site as an innocent root process, right out in the open.

Other malware has hidden itself as init, mysqld, php-fpm, etc. This is really nothing new.

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Re: RotaJakiro: A long live secret backdoor with 0 VT detection

#20
post #15
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably a good choice running as "systemd-whatever". People have lost track of all the systemd pieces as it's grown in scope, so it doesn't look immediately suspicious.

That's pretty much what I said.. ;)

Your comment was much shorter when I hit reply :)
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