Nano, it's been so long since the last time I have used it. I have so many fond memories of opening it to edit configuration fileson bare TTYs while installing Gentoo or Archlinux in the mid '00s. A few years later I switched to (N)Vi(m) (with quite a long Emacs parenthesis), but `nano` still has a special place in my heart as my first real experience with a CLI editor (if you exclude MSDOS' EDIT, of course).
Nano 5.7
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Re: Nano 5.7
#22I never understood the hate Nano gets from vi users. Nano does many things quicker and easier than vi. For example, search & replace. Would I code in Nano? No. Do I use Nano to edit configuration files and make other small edits? Absolutely.
Don't mean to hate on Nano, but after all these years gaining inordinate vim muscle memory, an unexpected `VISUAL=/usr/bin/nano` default feels to me like a vim prompt must feel to a newbie.
Re: Nano 5.7
#23I never understood the hate Nano gets from vi users. Nano does many things quicker and easier than vi. For example, search & replace. Would I code in Nano? No. Do I use Nano to edit configuration files and make other small edits? Absolutely.
>I never understood the hate Nano gets from vi users. They need to justify all the time they spent learning and configuring vi/vim to themselves and to others.
That's pretty dismissive. I used nano early on and moved to vim and loved it. I think other people might have a similar experience as me so I encourage them to try vim or emacs if they're up for it. I'm not trying to justify my time in vim, I'm trying to encourage people to see if they might appreciate the tool as much as I do.
Re: Nano 5.7
#24For those who use an actual editor https://www.vimconf.live/ Heh can one imagine a conference for NANO?
No, I honestly can't imagine why you'd need a conference for a tool. Maybe I'm missing something and the construction industry is similarly excited about DrillConf or TruckConf.
I get your point but there are all sorts of conferences and conventions. Obscure subject conferences are not just for tech :)
https://www.worktruckshow.com/ and there's even one for concrete https://concreteshow.co.uk/
Re: Nano 5.7
#25For those who use an actual editor https://www.vimconf.live/ Heh can one imagine a conference for NANO?
No, I honestly can't imagine why you'd need a conference for a tool. Maybe I'm missing something and the construction industry is similarly excited about DrillConf or TruckConf.
I'm in oil and gas and I can say I'm pretty excited about DrillConf.
Re: Nano 5.7
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I never understood the hate Nano gets from vi users. They need to justify all the time they spent learning and configuring vi/vim to themselves and to others.
That's pretty dismissive. I used nano early on and moved to vim and loved it. I think other people might have a similar experience as me so I encourage them to try vim or emacs if they're up for it. I'm not trying to justify my time in vim, I'm trying to encourage people to see if they might appreciate the tool as much as I do.
It doesn't sound like you hate nano though, so my comment doesn't apply to you or people like you.
Re: Nano 5.7
#27I never understood the hate Nano gets from vi users. Nano does many things quicker and easier than vi. For example, search & replace. Would I code in Nano? No. Do I use Nano to edit configuration files and make other small edits? Absolutely.
Don't mean to hate on Nano, but after all these years gaining inordinate vim muscle memory, an unexpected `VISUAL=/usr/bin/nano` default feels to me like a vim prompt must feel to a newbie.
Not to me, currently a vim user and irritated by nano.
Back in the day when vim would open it felt more as if my whole computer broke and nothing in the universe made sense anymore.
Nowadays with nano, I simply feel and think: ugghhh soo SLOW!
I wonder how other people experience it :P
Re: Nano 5.7
#28I never understood the hate Nano gets from vi users. Nano does many things quicker and easier than vi. For example, search & replace. Would I code in Nano? No. Do I use Nano to edit configuration files and make other small edits? Absolutely.
>I never understood the hate Nano gets from vi users. They need to justify all the time they spent learning and configuring vi/vim to themselves and to others.
Not really, I don't configure vim and all my skills w.r.t. vim are via vimtutor.
Cost of learning: 1 hour (when I was bored on a long train ride and didn't have access to internet). I did the tutorial 3 times.
The basics of vim are easy to learn. Caveat: I do remember I had like 5 false starts in learning vim (and remembering nothing). This was before I knew vimtutor and googled for random tutorials. IMO, a lot of vim tutorials make out the vim basics to be much more complicated than they are. Vimtutor doesn't, vimtutor is the perfect example of a magic bullet.
Just type vimtutor in the CLI and go.
Re: Nano 5.7
#29Nano was my gateway editor when learning *nix in college. I tried vi only to have to close the window to exit. I think nano can continue to safely bring in converts from Windows and MacOS.
I LOVE Nano. I just can’t figure out vi/vim.
Me too!
Everything i know about vi/vim is :q and :q!
Re: Nano 5.7
#30I never understood the hate Nano gets from vi users. Nano does many things quicker and easier than vi. For example, search & replace. Would I code in Nano? No. Do I use Nano to edit configuration files and make other small edits? Absolutely.
IMO both vim and nano are perfectly fine tools. IMO the emotional gripes that people have with them are really more preferences in a world where everything is already near perfect.
Or maybe that's just me. Nano, vim, it's all good, but for the past 3 years I strongly prefer vim :P (before that I prefered nano because I couldn't find a good vim tutorial)