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Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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The media control and censorship here in India is definitely getting our of hand! Setting aside the absolute criminal mismanagement and planning of the Covid situation in the past few months, the fact that the people in power are still applying their brains and might into figuring out how to manipulate the narrative and how to squash dissent in this moment when the country is going through an unimaginable disaster. J…

Well a little more context will do. The man tweeted he needed oxygen to a famous celebrity. A union minister herself called him twice to help. As he was not answering she asked district magistrate to help. They found that man's grandfather is not suffering from covid and not admitted to any hospital and under private care. So the man just fired a tweet thus police has questioned him and let him go.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is on Biden's watch. Trump was berated for even contemplating deploying the National Guard as American cities burnt last summer.

A comparison between BLM protests and precautions against the storming of the federal legislature by people who sincerely believed the election was "stolen" is infantile and skewed in the extreme.

You're right, BLM protests resulted in the murder of dozens of civilians, several police officers, and billions in damage.

The "insurrection" only resulted in the murder of a Trump supporter.

Not to mention we've even seen BLM protesters storm a capitol last week:

https://twitter.com/tylertalley22/status/1384972821714161667

https://kfor.com/news/local/protesters-gather-at-oklahoma-ca...

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

#43
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

COVID is a catastrophe in India because the government's core is religious extremism and other forms of bigotry, and those have driven its response, including cabinet members promoting folk remedies above vaccines and encouraging large religious gatherings (including an upcoming one).

I guess in America there is a lot of the same with some groups of people believing they can pray the virus away or that it simply doesn't exist and is part of some satanic cults agenda.

Seems like a very caricaturish characterization of what people actually believe. That sort of broad contempt and unwillingness to understand the range of perspectives on the issues besides the "official" (read: oligarchic) narrative is unfortunate.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

#44
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Indian Government recently made Twitter do similar things. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/26/twitter-under-... Do you know what's worst? A guy was booked yesterday for Tweeting he needed oxygen cylinders which according to a state government is spreading fake news. https://thewire.in/government/amethi-up-police-arfa-khanum-s... While COVID hasn't been kind to the people of India, The current regime's atte…

Is there some service in India that actually delivers oxygen cylinders when you tweet? If you are in dire need to oxygen, the last thing you’d be doing is tweeting. The irony is that elections that were held is the biggest cause for this spike and the government did not oppose or stop that.

Wow, you make a lot of assumptions and failed to read the article.

The reports are that people's families are having to source meds and oxygen for their loved ones. The offending tweet was consistent with that and, to paraphrase a bit, consisted of a guy basically saying "Hey, does anyone know where I can get a tank of oxygen for my grandfather??" It seems the the grandfather died by the next day anyway.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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post #10
post #4

Indian Government recently made Twitter do similar things. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/26/twitter-under-... Do you know what's worst? A guy was booked yesterday for Tweeting he needed oxygen cylinders which according to a state government is spreading fake news. https://thewire.in/government/amethi-up-police-arfa-khanum-s... While COVID hasn't been kind to the people of India, The current regime's atte…

COVID is a catastrophe in India because the government's core is religious extremism and other forms of bigotry, and those have driven its response, including cabinet members promoting folk remedies above vaccines and encouraging large religious gatherings (including an upcoming one).

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Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

#46
post #4

Indian Government recently made Twitter do similar things. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/26/twitter-under-... Do you know what's worst? A guy was booked yesterday for Tweeting he needed oxygen cylinders which according to a state government is spreading fake news. https://thewire.in/government/amethi-up-police-arfa-khanum-s... While COVID hasn't been kind to the people of India, The current regime's atte…

Is there some service in India that actually delivers oxygen cylinders when you tweet? If you are in dire need to oxygen, the last thing you’d be doing is tweeting. The irony is that elections that were held is the biggest cause for this spike and the government did not oppose or stop that.

The situation on the ground is actually that bad unfortunately that people are resorting to pleading and begging for Oxygen anywhere they can.

The number of frantic oxygen requests I've been seeing in my building society Whatsapp group (a high end upper-class society) in the past few days is very scary. VIPs and people with a lot of connection are not able to source Oxygen or beds which paints the picture if you know India.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

#47
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is on Biden's watch. Trump was berated for even contemplating deploying the National Guard as American cities burnt last summer.

A comparison between BLM protests and precautions against the storming of the federal legislature by people who sincerely believed the election was "stolen" is infantile and skewed in the extreme.

To the extent they were both damaging public property, where they were, it seems a fair comparison.

To the extent one has a well-documented history of grievance, and the other has conspiracy theories, it does does not.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

#48
post #4

Indian Government recently made Twitter do similar things. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/26/twitter-under-... Do you know what's worst? A guy was booked yesterday for Tweeting he needed oxygen cylinders which according to a state government is spreading fake news. https://thewire.in/government/amethi-up-police-arfa-khanum-s... While COVID hasn't been kind to the people of India, The current regime's atte…

Is there some service in India that actually delivers oxygen cylinders when you tweet? If you are in dire need to oxygen, the last thing you’d be doing is tweeting. The irony is that elections that were held is the biggest cause for this spike and the government did not oppose or stop that.

YES! If you’re actually in India, you will know how useful Twitter has been with this. People are amplifying tweets about other people’s needs and other folks are sharing verified leads. All of this without any incentive to do so. Where the government is daily failing, citizens are rising to the occasion.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

#49

Shocking. What do the pro censorship people say all the time when defending Facebook or Twitter: speech is free but not free from consequences. I believe that's the line.

> I believe that's the line. I believe you're misrepresenting the line. Free speech in the US is about being protected from government -inflicted consequences. I can say "fuck you" all I like, but that's never meant I can say it to my boss and demand a First Amendment right to remain employed. It's never been an absolute, either. Incitement to riot, fraud, libel, actionable threats; all are speech, but we've long acc…

The First Amendment is about that. The principle is broader. We don't all accept restrictions on it.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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post #5

The media control and censorship here in India is definitely getting our of hand! Setting aside the absolute criminal mismanagement and planning of the Covid situation in the past few months, the fact that the people in power are still applying their brains and might into figuring out how to manipulate the narrative and how to squash dissent in this moment when the country is going through an unimaginable disaster. J…

Alarming but otherwise China and to a lesser extent Pakistan take control of the narrative to their own advantage. At least the Modi government doesn't lock people in reeducation camps. India should remain a secular state though.
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