Sugar-sweetened beverage intake and serum testosterone levels in adult males (2018)
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Re: Sugar-sweetened beverage intake and serum testosterone levels in adult males (2018)
#2> Conclusion: SSB consumption is significantly associated with low serum testosterone in men 20–39 years old in the United States.
Re: Sugar-sweetened beverage intake and serum testosterone levels in adult males (2018)
#3Is it the sugar or BPA lined cans? Also do they mean "sugar" or high fructose corn syrup? Seems like men had higher test levels in the era of glass bottles and real sugar soda.
Re: Sugar-sweetened beverage intake and serum testosterone levels in adult males (2018)
#4Is it the sugar or BPA lined cans? Also do they mean "sugar" or high fructose corn syrup? Seems like men had higher test levels in the era of glass bottles and real sugar soda.
You'd think you can compare that by also looking at artificial sweeteners.
Re: Sugar-sweetened beverage intake and serum testosterone levels in adult males (2018)
#5For anyone wondering, this is not an experiment, it's an epidemiological study. I've commented about it on HN before [1], but nutritional epidemiology is in its own league of shady science. If you didn't know, 80% of things you eat give you cancer [2].
That being said, sugar is bad. Main-lining sugar by drinking it in huge concentrations seems even worse! Edit: that being said, if you are doing nutritional epidemiology, or any data science for that matter, check out Mito [3]! It's what I do when I'm not shit-posting on sugar on HN :)
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26764060 [2] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23193004/ [3] https://trymito.io/hn
Re: Sugar-sweetened beverage intake and serum testosterone levels in adult males (2018)
#6Is it the sugar or BPA lined cans? Also do they mean "sugar" or high fructose corn syrup? Seems like men had higher test levels in the era of glass bottles and real sugar soda.
You'd think you can compare that by also looking at artificial sweeteners.
Agreed. I am not saying that full-sugar soda is healthy, but it seems in the past people ate a lot of sugar and seemed to have less endocrine problems than they do today.
Re: Sugar-sweetened beverage intake and serum testosterone levels in adult males (2018)
#7Too many confounding variables that can't be removed by a mathematical magic wand.
What about obesity, what about body fat percentage?
Yeah, fat men have lower testosterone levels. Yeah, non-smokers have lower testosterone levels.
I drink a bunch of HFCS and sugar sweetened beverages. Don't feel like it affects my weightlifting, maybe teeth mostly.
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#8Interesting. It would be even more interesting to see if the High Fructose Corn Syrup used in most sweetened drinks today has a different effect from the sugar used in previous generations. Given the changes in Men's morphology over the past 50 years, something is definitely making men fatter and softer (and of course, T is probably a large part of that...)
Re: Sugar-sweetened beverage intake and serum testosterone levels in adult males (2018)
#9For anyone wondering, this is not an experiment, it's an epidemiological study. I've commented about it on HN before [1], but nutritional epidemiology is in its own league of shady science. If you didn't know, 80% of things you eat give you cancer [2]. That being said, sugar is bad. Main-lining sugar by drinking it in huge concentrations seems even worse! Edit: that being said, if you are doing nutritional epidemiolo…
Sugar is not bad. Just like meat or bacon is not bad.
Why would sugar on its own be bad? Obviously it's the whole lifestyle and diet that is bad. There are cyclist that carb load by eatig raw sugar and have no metabolic issues like some of the overweight diabetics do when they drink their second gallon of sugary coca cola.
Re: Sugar-sweetened beverage intake and serum testosterone levels in adult males (2018)
#10> Conclusion: SSB consumption is significantly associated with low serum testosterone in men 20–39 years old in the United States.
Do they give the effect size anywhere?