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Re: Epicurious Will No Longer Publish Beef Recipes

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Post by senectus1 » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 6:53 AM UTC

itcrowd wrote: post #5

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #3

There needs to be an informed decision pollution breakdown, industry by industry of the climate change impact. Cows are the latest media exposed industry but I have no intuition on how they compare with other industries? Coal power plants? ICEs in auto industry? Petro-Chemical industry? If the meat industry collapsed would we eliminate 20% of the world's pollution or 0.2%? I have no idea and haven't found any clear c…

There's a good chart with a short text summary at Our World in Data : https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector

be interesting to see what the predicyions would be if another World War broke out and we pretended that nukes wouldn't get used.

I'm guessing that the 73% of GHG from industry and energy production would jump to 90% during war 0.o

edit: Holy snapping duck crap. a quick google search bought up some really horrifying links:

https://www.wri.org/data/greenhouse-gas-emissions-over-165-y...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_war

I'm no human hating greeny but this makes me feel sick about us in general

Re: Epicurious Will No Longer Publish Beef Recipes

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Post by elite_hackers » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 6:54 AM UTC

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #10

itcrowd wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a good chart with a short text summary at Our World in Data : https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector

This is really really cool. So looking at the world data the global warming effect of the whole world livestock production is 5.8% which is aproximately the same as the methane emissions of accidental leaks in the Energy sector industries. It seems logistically much easier to solve the problem of coal mining leaks and Oil and Gas methane leaks created by a few multinational conglomerates, than to try and curb a fract…

You think repairing literally millions of abandoned leaking natural gas wells is easier?

Re: Epicurious Will No Longer Publish Beef Recipes

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Post by rognjen » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 6:54 AM UTC

tommek4077 wrote: post #6

They probably looked in their traffic logs and saw that google isnt sending users for those keywords anyway. PR-Stunt.

Exactly! And in a year or two when they'll just quietly bring them back should they realize it hasn't had the impact they wanted.

Re: Epicurious Will No Longer Publish Beef Recipes

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Post by tasssko » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 6:54 AM UTC

I do think the problem is there is no differentiation between organic animal husbandry which has proven benefits (the pastures capture carbon dioxide etc) and the intensive factory farms. I have been reasonably selective of my meat sources over the past decade buying from a local butcher who sources from local organic farms and i am a happy customer and not ashamed.

Re: Epicurious Will No Longer Publish Beef Recipes

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Post by vineyardmike » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 6:55 AM UTC

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #10

itcrowd wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a good chart with a short text summary at Our World in Data : https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector

This is really really cool. So looking at the world data the global warming effect of the whole world livestock production is 5.8% which is aproximately the same as the methane emissions of accidental leaks in the Energy sector industries. It seems logistically much easier to solve the problem of coal mining leaks and Oil and Gas methane leaks created by a few multinational conglomerates, than to try and curb a fract…

Or if people drive 33% less.

Or heated their home 50% less.

But why not stop the accidental leaks while eating less meat while driving less while using energy efficient houses?

It’s a lot easier to blame an industry you can’t control than make a few decisions at home.

Tell your politicians to hold the mega corps accountable while proving you care by avoiding beef and driving less and turning the AC on less.

Re: Epicurious Will No Longer Publish Beef Recipes

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Post by elite_hackers » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 6:58 AM UTC

toyg wrote: post #7

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #3

There needs to be an informed decision pollution breakdown, industry by industry of the climate change impact. Cows are the latest media exposed industry but I have no intuition on how they compare with other industries? Coal power plants? ICEs in auto industry? Petro-Chemical industry? If the meat industry collapsed would we eliminate 20% of the world's pollution or 0.2%? I have no idea and haven't found any clear c…

And what about forest-killing soy and avocado plantations? What about water-guzzling fields? The “environmental” story of vegetarianism is such hypocritical bullshit.

What about them?

Re: Epicurious Will No Longer Publish Beef Recipes

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Post by parski » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 6:58 AM UTC

Jetgocl wrote: post #8

itcrowd wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a good chart with a short text summary at Our World in Data : https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector

> Grants from Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation

Among many other grants, sponsors, donors and contributors such as the UK government and the WHO. What's your point?

Re: Epicurious Will No Longer Publish Beef Recipes

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Post by vineyardmike » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 6:59 AM UTC

toyg wrote: post #7

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #3

There needs to be an informed decision pollution breakdown, industry by industry of the climate change impact. Cows are the latest media exposed industry but I have no intuition on how they compare with other industries? Coal power plants? ICEs in auto industry? Petro-Chemical industry? If the meat industry collapsed would we eliminate 20% of the world's pollution or 0.2%? I have no idea and haven't found any clear c…

And what about forest-killing soy and avocado plantations? What about water-guzzling fields? The “environmental” story of vegetarianism is such hypocritical bullshit.

It seems the data doesn’t back up this assertion (based on studies linked elsewhere in this post).

PS. What-about-ism is not a sound argument.

Re: Epicurious Will No Longer Publish Beef Recipes

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Post by morsch » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 7:00 AM UTC

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #10

itcrowd wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a good chart with a short text summary at Our World in Data : https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector

This is really really cool. So looking at the world data the global warming effect of the whole world livestock production is 5.8% which is aproximately the same as the methane emissions of accidental leaks in the Energy sector industries. It seems logistically much easier to solve the problem of coal mining leaks and Oil and Gas methane leaks created by a few multinational conglomerates, than to try and curb a fract…

Maybe? Why wouldn't you try both?

Re: Epicurious Will No Longer Publish Beef Recipes

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Post by elite_hackers » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 7:01 AM UTC

junon wrote: post #4

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #3

There needs to be an informed decision pollution breakdown, industry by industry of the climate change impact. Cows are the latest media exposed industry but I have no intuition on how they compare with other industries? Coal power plants? ICEs in auto industry? Petro-Chemical industry? If the meat industry collapsed would we eliminate 20% of the world's pollution or 0.2%? I have no idea and haven't found any clear c…

This is the biggest problem with climate change in my opinion. Public education is abysmal and as someone that fully believes in it I still have the exact same issue - I have no clear understanding of the problem in order to make a clear decision as to where I could focus my efforts.

You think -that- is the “biggest problem” with climate change?

I’ve got bad news for you kid