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The health benefits of better air

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Re: The health benefits of better air

#71

I'm curious whether the issue the author identifies (real or not) with ultrasonic humidifiers applies also to humidifiers that simply blow air through a wet membrane..

I found that distilled water does not increase PM0.5 when I run an ultrasonic humidifier, but filtered water causes huge particulate spikes.

Re: The health benefits of better air

#72

A simple 20 x 20 Box fan with a furnace HEPA filter placed against it (just turn on fan and place filter behind it) will do wonders for your indoor air quality. The 3M 2200 Series Filtrete Filters are amazing. You also always want to cook with the Hood Fan going. The particulate that is created during cooking is so small it can pass through the lungs into your blood stream causing havoc.

How long do the filters last?

It all depends on how dirty your air is. I typically get about 2-3 months. Ir you're considering it, I would recommend the following fan.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lasko-20-in-Power-Plus-Box-Fan-B...

I have 3 running in my home and they haven't been turned off for over 1.5 years, still going strong. The filters I buy at Costco when on sale (3 for $29).

This one has been on the fan 24x7 for the last 2 months and is still good for a couple of more.

https://imgur.com/JfSjbbg

Re: The health benefits of better air

#73
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Thank you for this extensive resource on air quality. Yes, it needs to get more attention as it is one of the main drivers of mortality of environmental risks. One thing one has to bear in mind is that often when you optmize your home for low PM (e.g. with air purifiers and fixing of air leackage) your CO2 will get very high causing headaches and reduce cognitive performance. So it always makes sense for indoor air q…

That's a great resource, thank you. As a tinkerer who is already quite far down the ESP8266 rabbit hole, are you able to tell me if your software distribution has any particular "special sauce" around the interpretation of the data from these sensors? Or is it predominantly glue between the sensors and the OLED display / your cloud service?

I am interested in replicating your hardware stack but implementing the software stack using the esphome framework which supports all of the components used in your DIY solution.

https://esphome.io/components/sensor/senseair.html

https://esphome.io/components/sensor/pmsx003.html

https://esphome.io/components/sensor/sht3xd.html

https://esphome.io/components/display/ssd1306.html

Re: The health benefits of better air

#74

I'm surprised this doesn't mention gas stoves and ovens. Gas is the "high end" option, yet creates totally unnecessary PM2.5 pollution in your home. Children growing up with gas stoves have higher rates of asthma.

I don't think we should do domestic cooking with gas for reasons that include respiratory health, but it's worth noting that the link between modern domestic gas ovens and childhood asthma is very weak relative to other risk factors, which might be why it's not mentioned in the article.

"When the meta-analysis puts everything together, they come to the conclusion that gas cooking produces a small increase in asthma risk for children, perhaps a 1.5 percentage point increase in risk." (https://emilyoster.substack.com/p/gas-stoves-finally)

Re: The health benefits of better air

#75
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In practice, how does one try to achieve a balance between CO2 and PM? Do you open the windows for a while when CO2 is up and PM is down, and then close them and run your purifiers when CO2 starts to go back down? Is it possible to keep both low with HEPA filters on the windows?

co2 and pm should both go down with windows open. i put my air purifiers on low when the windows are open to deal with the particles i throw up by moving around and doing stuff indoors. with the windows closed (usually only at night), i put the air purifiers on medium/high.

I have noticed every time I open my windows, the no2 levels reported on my Dyson filter spike. Not sure what to make of it but it’s interesting.

Re: The health benefits of better air

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Are they actually effective in anything but a sealed space shuttle? Nasa is the source of the plant air quality experiments people reference. In anything but that air exchange will happen much faster than a houseplant can grow. I love plants but I can’t imagine they do much unless you have an absolutely massive quantity.

You need a vast number of house plants to make even a small difference. Basically you'd have to live in a greenhouse.

You would need to live in a biodome. The only way to remove all the CO2 you exhale would be to grow all the food you eat. Carbon in equals carbon out.

Plants still look nice though.

Re: The health benefits of better air

#77
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Thank you for this extensive resource on air quality. Yes, it needs to get more attention as it is one of the main drivers of mortality of environmental risks. One thing one has to bear in mind is that often when you optmize your home for low PM (e.g. with air purifiers and fixing of air leackage) your CO2 will get very high causing headaches and reduce cognitive performance. So it always makes sense for indoor air q…

I am interested. Do you ship to Canada (happy to pay the difference/wait for you to figure out the postage rate)?

I too am interested but I'm from Chile.

(replying to you to not pollute parent level replies)

Re: The health benefits of better air

#78

I'm surprised this doesn't mention gas stoves and ovens. Gas is the "high end" option, yet creates totally unnecessary PM2.5 pollution in your home. Children growing up with gas stoves have higher rates of asthma.

> Gas is the "high end" option Few years ago I moved from a little apartment with an electric range to an SFH with gas everything. "Good for you," my gas-enthusiast family said, "now you have a REAL stove" It still takes forever to boil water in a pot. The food tastes the same. I wonder why furnaces have these fancy high-efficiency heat exchangers and stoves don't? Cost? I wouldn't mind going back to electric. I just…

You can get some really high power induction stoves now. This one we have goes up to 12KW at full power. Boils a pot of water real fast.

Re: The health benefits of better air

#80

I want to get to the point where houses are designed with all the things mentioned in this thread in mind.

We are at that point from a technology perspective - look up passive houses - but it's still far too niche an area. For new construction, it's actually not that much more expensive, and is also far more comfortable and energy efficient also.
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