Dominance of Apple and Google’s app stores impacting competition and consumers
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Re: Dominance of Apple and Google’s app stores impacting competition and consumers
#2Do they have any teeth or is it just checkbox ticking exercise to make consumer feel something is being done?
> There is a window of opportunity for Apple and Google themselves to take steps to improve outcomes for app developers and consumers by adopting the potential measures we have identified
Why not just introduce new regulation? Companies will be dragging this as long as they can and reap profits, whereas such organisations continue to take salaries, do pointless meetings and then release more reports how the situation looks bad.
Re: Dominance of Apple and Google’s app stores impacting competition and consumers
#3I'd love to see a solid non-OS specific app store come into being. I own anyapp.com and any.app, let me know if anyone wants to partner up.
Re: Dominance of Apple and Google’s app stores impacting competition and consumers
#4I'd love to see a solid non-OS specific app store come into being. I own anyapp.com and any.app, let me know if anyone wants to partner up.
F-droid tends to fill the gap for Andriod, but not enough developers sending their apps there. I guess when there's no monetary incentive, it's only the open source crowd that will participate
Re: Dominance of Apple and Google’s app stores impacting competition and consumers
#5> The ACCC has put forward a series of potential measures in response to its findings, including that consumers be able to rate and review all apps, that consumers have the ability to change any pre-installed default app on their device, that app developers be allowed to provide consumers with information about alternative payment options and that information collected by Apple and Google in their capacity as app marketplace operators be ring-fenced from their other operations.
Does anyone know what power the ACCC has to make these more than just "proposed"? I'm not familiar with it's role in the Australian political system.
Re: Dominance of Apple and Google’s app stores impacting competition and consumers
#6I feel like we keep getting these inquiries/lawsuits/press releases every year but, literally, nothing gets any better at all.
Every developer KNOWS that Google is extremely abusive towards them solely because of their position in the market yet nothing ever improves. If these are not illegal monopolies, what is?!
Re: Dominance of Apple and Google’s app stores impacting competition and consumers
#7> The ACCC has put forward a series of potential measures in response to its findings, including that consumers be able to rate and review all apps, that consumers have the ability to change any pre-installed default app on their device, that app developers be allowed to provide consumers with information about alternative payment options and that information collected by Apple and Google in their capacity as app mar…
ACCC likely has full power to compel compliance (within Australia) if Apple/Google want to continue operating in Australia, they use this law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition_and_Consumer_Act_2...
Re: Dominance of Apple and Google’s app stores impacting competition and consumers
#8Well I love my Apple App Store. It protects me for certain things with payments, and it’s another line of defense against some attacks.
Re: Dominance of Apple and Google’s app stores impacting competition and consumers
#9I feel like we keep getting these inquiries/lawsuits/press releases every year but, literally, nothing gets any better at all. Every developer KNOWS that Google is extremely abusive towards them solely because of their position in the market yet nothing ever improves. If these are not illegal monopolies, what is?!
Well, the problem is that they aren't monopolies. They may be problematic but we don't have laws or regulations to deal with this specific situation. And when we call it a "monopoly" because that seems to be the closest thing then the defenders of these organizations can say "but it's not a monopoly!" and they are right.
So if you think it is problematic to have two players in a market even when they are on equal footing then you need to promote legislation to make that illegal. Or if you think there's something specifically harmful about this pair of dominant players then those externalities need to be addressed through legislation.
But shouting "monopoly" is, at this point, counter-productive IMHO.
Re: Dominance of Apple and Google’s app stores impacting competition and consumers
#10Well I love my Apple App Store. It protects me for certain things with payments, and it’s another line of defense against some attacks.
Yep it neatly organizes everything with subscriptions and vetted apps into a single location. Can't ask for more. The only people that want out of it is people who want a bigger rev cut, to bypass app store rules and infect devices.