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If you don’t run Electron apps, even an older Mac will fly. My 2015 is still astoundingly fast, it just doesn’t have Chrome bogging it down.
This idea that Electron apps are inherently somehow slow is starting to bug me out. While writing Electron version of our graphics heavy web application, I noticed that the memory usage or CPU consumption is not a lot higher than some other native applications. We have taken careful care in order to write fast and memory friendly javascript if possible, avoiding using slow features of the language (the list is long,…
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and this is now called Electron trading speed of development with 'hardware optimization'. Mac being a small market, some users are still opiniated/loud enough to reward nicer/native UI vs cross-ish platform lowest common denominator UI. Maybe there is hope Arm mac stays fast.
I would say that 90% of my pc resources are consumed to execute JavaScript code. If we need dedicated hardware to execute this more efficiently so be it. We do it anyway for so many other domains. Video, graphics, encryption etc.
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Apple isn't harnessing magic here. The opportunity for competition exists, but everyone else is just sitting on their asses while Apple's chip team puts in the work. If you want to beat Mx, you have to think outside the box, just like how Apple thought outside of x86. That being said, I do enjoy the shift to ARM as the dominant arch. x86 has far too many decades of cruft behind it. I don't think Apple will take over…
> The opportunity for competition exists Perhaps, but I guess it would take on the order of a decade for a competitor to build their technology including an ecosystem with customers. And who says they won't copy Apple's business practices? > but everyone else is just sitting on their asses while Apple's chip team puts in the work. That's because the complexity of the semiconductor industry is daunting. You need far m…
Sign me up for more of those kinds of "business practices", thank you very much.
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#434Earlier quoted context omitted.
and this is now called Electron trading speed of development with 'hardware optimization'. Mac being a small market, some users are still opiniated/loud enough to reward nicer/native UI vs cross-ish platform lowest common denominator UI. Maybe there is hope Arm mac stays fast.
Yep, see the success of the Nova editor.
Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac
#435This would be quite an accelerated timeline if Apple ships its second-generation M-series chip only eight months after the first. Typically, they’ve followed a sort of six-month tick-tock pattern for the A-series, launching a new major revision in the fall with the new iPhone, and launching an “X” revision in the spring with new iPads. I think most observers have been expecting an “M1X” for Apple's first pro-oriented…
Some people (a lot?) are now waiting for the new Pro devices and won't buy new until then
If they would have released the new iMac with a bigger panel so there were options for the 27" as well as the former 21" then my mother would be rocking a new iMac next month.
I know they said up to two years for the transition but I want to transition now :)
Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac
#436This would be quite an accelerated timeline if Apple ships its second-generation M-series chip only eight months after the first. Typically, they’ve followed a sort of six-month tick-tock pattern for the A-series, launching a new major revision in the fall with the new iPhone, and launching an “X” revision in the spring with new iPads. I think most observers have been expecting an “M1X” for Apple's first pro-oriented…
Not really, because M1 was probably meant as a stop-gap, and it's mostly a rehash of A12. M2 is probably based on the Arm v9 ISA and has been in design for years.
Well, if that is indeed a stop gap then I can't wait to see their first "real" chip :)
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> The opportunity for competition exists Perhaps, but I guess it would take on the order of a decade for a competitor to build their technology including an ecosystem with customers. And who says they won't copy Apple's business practices? > but everyone else is just sitting on their asses while Apple's chip team puts in the work. That's because the complexity of the semiconductor industry is daunting. You need far m…
You mean the business practices wherein Apple is 10x better on privacy than everyone else to the point that Facebook and Google are now being forced to be honest with users, disclose all the user data they are stealing and selling, and disclose all the privacy and security risks inherent in their business models? Sign me up for more of those kinds of "business practices", thank you very much.
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> The early prognosticators thought the M1 was more a proof of concept (shove it into existing designs to get it out there). Which is a weird take when you consider the thermal issues that Intel macs were plagued with. It's almost like the chassis was designed with 10w of dissipation in mind which Intel couldn't operate within, but the M1 could easily. I had assumed that Apple designed for the M1 and then fit Intel c…
My private conspiracy theory (supported by nothing) is that Intel promised to Apple good 10w processors back in 2014-ish, and Apple designed 2016 MBP based on that promise. And when Intel didn't delivered, they shipped Macs anyway, and either started working on M1 or cleared any doubt about should they continue working on it.
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> I think most observers have been expecting an “M1X” An M2 name implies some architectural differences like extra cores or more external bandwidth. I'd be totally happy with an M1x with some tweaks like more external connectivity and more memory. Which, for me, would be quite perfect. The only reason I'm holding back this purchase is the 16 GB memory limit.
Same here. I want a replacement for my 27in iMac and would have held my nose at the slightly smaller screen, but really want more memory than 16GiB (docker, etc...). So Apple will just have to wait to get my money until fall (or whenever they announce the successor to the 27in iMac).
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#440I really want the next MacBook Pro to support driving two 4K monitors over thunderbolt and have an option to buy 32 gigs of ram.
Really hoping for 128-256gb ram limit, perhaps on a separate ddr. E.g., any sort of serious data science work is now impossible on m1s simply because of ram limits.