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Acura is German, not Japanese, you're not replying to the correct comment, I think. Also, Acura's trackpad or whatever just needs a cursor. I wonder why they didn't think of that.
My 2018 Audi has the same braindead touchpad interface. It's completely unusable.
Tesla Q1 2021 Results
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If the singularity happens on schedule they'll all be paperclips long before then.
Universal Paperclips reference for anyone wondering. An absolutely wonderful little game. https://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/index2.html
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> That's not what I replied to. You said it was a pump and dump and blatant illegal market manipulation. I literally quoted my self when I said it would be illegal in a different asset. And yeah, of course he’s manipulating the price, I even showed a study where they evaluated such. And yes in my opinion he’s pumping the price so he can exit higher. > This is a lie and another hallucination since I never said anythin…
> Pretty sure this isn’t within the spirit of site rules. Then don't do it. I guess this is the 'attack how you say it stage'. You said "Your claim he's not actively working them into a froth is certainly at best a generous take. " Show me where I said that. You said a tweet saying they would accept bitcoin is 'blatant illegal market manipulation' and a 'pump and dump'. All I did was quote your own source to show tha…
Like I said, I'm happy to engage with you once you decide to abide by site rules :) I'm not interested in engaging in a conversation with someone accusing me historically (and apparently, presently) of not knowing what I'm talking about and hallucinating. If you wish people to engage with you, do so civilly.
Your personal attacks are neither acceptable nor welcome, and your goal is clearly to engage in pedantry for the purposes of winning an argument rather than exploring an idea. That's not what this site is for.
Have a great day! :)
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As I said in another reply, Tesla is the only company advertising automated driving and other features that don't work in edge cases which is bad news for staying alive, even if you aren't the person driving a Tesla. They are also actively removing standard physical controls that have been around for decades, and through design, they are training people to rely on a touchscreen device that is not consistent or reliab…
> training people to rely on a touchscreen device that is not consistent or reliable. This is a common misconception, easily avoided by getting some firsthand experience owning a Tesla. We literally do not use the touchscreen for driving. And for that matter, almost not at all while driving. As with any tool there will be those who misuse it and put others at risk. I look forward to hearing you give even a single exa…
So a software update has never changed the order or location of user interface elements?
> I look forward to hearing you give even a single example where a human driver was not to blame
There are at least 3 known cases where autopilot failed and someone died. (Also note that no one has died from the failure of Waymo or SuperCruise driver assist tech.) Here are a few articles in the past few days on the same subject.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/23/business/teslas-autopilot...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2021/04/20/tesla-a...
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/fatal-driverless-...
The NTSB has also outlined the many issues with Tesla's autopilot feature.
https://www.ntsb.gov/news/events/Documents/2020-HWY18FH011-B...
> The investigation identified the following safety issues:
> - Driver Distraction.
> - Risk Mitigation Pertaining to Monitoring Driver Engagement.
> - Risk Assessment Pertaining to Operational Design Domain.
> - Limitations of Collision Avoidance Systems.
> - Insufficient Federal Oversight of Partial Driving Automation Systems.
> - Need for Event Data Recording Requirements for Driving Automation Systems.
As far as I know, Tesla has not even responded to this report. A good place to start heading towards that better world is for Tesla to demonstrate some accountability.
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In every safety system, there is a point where human intervention can override automated activity. In almost every car these systems have standard tactile controls so you can override through muscle memory in an emergency without taking your eyes off the road. (If you haven't noticed, even the icons used on stalks and buttons are standardized across the industry as a matter of safety). In a Tesla, overriding the auto…
> available through an interaction with the touch screen Not exactly. It’s on the stalk as a physical button.
> On Model 3 and Model Y vehicles, Tesla didn’t install normal windshield wiper settings through a steering wheel stalk.
> Instead, the automaker is detecting the rain through its Autopilot cameras and automatically adjusting the speed based on the strength of the rainfall.
> If the driver wants to adjust the speed, they need to do it through the center touchscreen.
> The driver in Germany was adjusting those settings when he lost control of the vehicle and crashed.
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A few years ago I'd agree it would be a major EV setback but there are so many other options now I don't think that's the case any longer. I'm very optimistic about Rivian. It's Tesla but without the ego thinking they are smarter than 50 years of manufacturing lessons.
No, its Tesla if Tesla could have seen the future and copied its playbook from itself. Rivian is emulating the Tesla strategy to a remarkable degree, which might make them a bit smarter than every other car company but does not make them a Tesla competitor, or even that interesting.
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Here's a range test of a Tesla Model Y (EPA range 326 miles) versus a Ford Mustang Mach E (EPA range 270 miles). But in a real world drive the Mach E gets more range: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSmSiOo-v8s Tesla likes to maximize their EPA test cycle results to make the advertising look good, but it doesn't necessarily translate to real world results.
The difference, as other testers have noted, is that Tesla's notion of "0% battery" is a bit more conservative than other brands. It's important to appreciate that the utility of energy efficiency metrics are different for ICE and EV. In an ICE car, fuel efficiency is pretty much just a stand-in for running costs and tailpipe pollution, so it makes sense for the test cycle to represent a plausible balance of city and…
It's not enough of a difference to account for the range deficit. Add on 12.6 miles for the Model Y and 7.3 miles for the Mach E. The Mustang still comes out on top:
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1131706_tesla-saves-mor...
> But when it comes to vehicle range, you mostly care about range in the context of long distance driving.
Yes, the Mach E does it better.
> What matters is highway cruising efficiency
No. What matters is how far you can drive for the money you spent.
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> available through an interaction with the touch screen Not exactly. It’s on the stalk as a physical button.
https://electrek.co/2020/08/04/tesla-wiper-controls-ruled-il... > On Model 3 and Model Y vehicles, Tesla didn’t install normal windshield wiper settings through a steering wheel stalk. > Instead, the automaker is detecting the rain through its Autopilot cameras and automatically adjusting the speed based on the strength of the rainfall. > If the driver wants to adjust the speed, they need to do it through the center…
> The driver in Germany was adjusting those settings when he lost control of the vehicle and crashed.
Yes, user error. He should have used the physical button or voice controls instead. I mean, when driving, the first rule is pay attention to the road.
Anyone can snipe and nitpick, but in actual use with responsible drivers the system works great. With irresponsible drivers, all bets are off, as with any car.
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> training people to rely on a touchscreen device that is not consistent or reliable. This is a common misconception, easily avoided by getting some firsthand experience owning a Tesla. We literally do not use the touchscreen for driving. And for that matter, almost not at all while driving. As with any tool there will be those who misuse it and put others at risk. I look forward to hearing you give even a single exa…
> This is a common misconception, easily avoided by getting some firsthand experience owning a Tesla. So a software update has never changed the order or location of user interface elements? > I look forward to hearing you give even a single example where a human driver was not to blame https://www.tesladeaths.com/ There are at least 3 known cases where autopilot failed and someone died. (Also note that no one has di…
Depending how you falsely define "failure," Autopilot can be falsely said to fail all the time.
If you set an unrealistic bar, it can fail each and every second of every drive, according to some fallacious definitions.
Fully replacing the driver is not a claimed feature of the current system.
Future systems, sure. But current systems? Nope.
Therefore, as has been clearly stated in many places, the human driver is responsible for maintaining safe operation of the vehicle.
So, the human is to blame in these cases, not Autopilot.
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Birds do exist and can reach speeds up to 200 mph (320 km/h).
Someone disputes that birds can fly fast and do visual navigation?