I've declared Android is malware then:
The whole point of an OS is to run code for the user but Google has turned it into an additive adware delivery platform.
Google have declared Droidscript is malware
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Maybe it's just time to see phones as what they are - a phone. I don't really care what software is ran in my truck, as long as it works (And that's why I'll not buy a Tesla). It's a phone, use it to call text and guide and browse some internet. That's it.
But for many people, maybe even most people, they're not just "a phone". They're a multi-purpose tool that comes in the form factor of a mobile phone. Camera, chat, web browser, games, social media, music player, access to nearly the sum total of human knowledge... Treating such as tool as merely "a phone" doesn't make any sense.
It’s still a phone actually and colloquially even if I use the Phone App infrequently.
The point isn’t what you call it. OP’s point was and I agree that you don’t need to have full control over every device that can possibly run code. Just let it be a device that does its thing.
It’s the difference in people that want calm technology vs “power users”. I want the device to exist waiting on my input and even though I have deep knowledge of its internal systems and processes, I don’t care, I just want it to work, solve a problem for me, and I’ll put it away.
Go ahead and root your phone to do whatever actively complex thing you need... it’s a tool for me and I personally want the walled garden to prevent it from possibly not working when I need it.
Re: Google have declared Droidscript is malware
#193Any time there is an article about Google just cutting someone off for no reason, I like to bring this up:
20 years ago my AdSense account was frozen for click fraud -- my appeal is still pending. Ironically the website it was on was shut down 19 years ago.
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Arbitrary code isn't banned on iOS, there isn't anything (yet) that can create fully fledged apps like Droidscript, but a few cool apps are: - iSH: an Alpine Linux shell environment, powered by an x86 to ARM JIT emulator - Scriptable: an iOS automation tool using Javascript, it can even integrate with native iOS APIs like photos and calendars, create native UIs, etc. - Pythonista: a Python IDE, you can create 2D game…
> Arbitrary code isn't banned on iOS It is. Even mozilla firefox is banned on the premise that it can run arbitrary code and yes, that is the official apple instance. The fact that they apply it when they see fit and allow other times, and that it is totally arbitrary and opaque based on their own private interests , is exactly what everyone with common sense tried to explain when criticizing the walled garden.
Firefox isn't banned, Gecko and SpiderMonkey are. For a few reasons, Apple doesn't want Blink/V8 demolishing users' batteries, and they have the excuse that allowing 3rd party browser engines is a security risk.
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#195How convenient for Google.
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#196It's seriously time to re-embrace the idea of ownership and control of our devices, and reject Android and iOS altogether. Developing for those platforms has become worse and more restrictive over the years, and this kind of crap is now just everyday news. How good are Pinephones[1]? Are there better alternatives? [1] https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/
The biggest problem with "alternative" platforms is just the lack of app support. I used to have a Nokia N9; great phone. But it didn't support WhatsApp and I was out on the loop on the WhatsApp chat all my other coworkers were in. Then there's things like banking apps, flight check-in apps, food ordering apps, dating apps, etc. etc. Can you do without those? Sure, of course. But if I want to order food where I live…
I keep hearing this and it's totally wrong. Desktop Linux has a huge app ecosystem and arguably has more high quality software than Android does. All of this works on the pinephone and other similar devices.
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#197Outch, they have done this sort of thing since quite a while now. A good friend of mine had a very big website (among top 200 Alexa raiting in ~2010) with adrevenue around 10k per month. Google just terminated the website without supplying additional much helpful information. Just an automatic generated email saying: you are done....
(that page was https://kriyayoga.com, which since has been closed down and made available for free download, only the tomb-site remains)
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I uninstalled all social media from my phone. I feel so much better. I use it for chat apps, phone calls (usually via chat apps), and occasionally wandering around Imgur when it would be socially awkward to not be on my phone. The rest of the time I've come to appreciate being present in the moment. So yeah, I'm looking at the new generation of Linux phones with interest. If I can run the chat apps in a browser OK, t…
In what kind of situations is it socially awkward to not be on your phone? Genuine question, I'm not great with social stuff.
When loitering, I've found that phones are a strong signal that distinguishes those uninterested in engaging with the strangers around them, from those that are. When trying to convey one's innocuousness to the wardens of a domain, it can be helpful to use your phone.
Related, if in a group, everybody else disengages to be engrossed in their phone, it can be helpful to do the same if one does not want to demonstrate a vulnerable dependency on the generosity of their attention.
A lot of awkwardness comes down to self-perception of vulnerability.
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I can add third-party repositories to F-Droid. The default F-Droid repository may be a walled garden but as far as I can tell the app and protocol are definitely not.
A walled garden doesn't necessarily exist solely of proprietary protocols and code. In the case of fdroid, apps that violate open source licenses are not allowed. So, technically, from the perspective of a company like Facebook, fdroid is a walled garden they cannot enter without open sourcing their code. (I'm not saying fdroid's policies are bad. I'm just trying to make an argument for the counterside and am playing…
no, literally: you can add any repository you want, even with proprietary code.
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Only because Termux developers refuse to use Java APIs and don't accept Android isn't a POSIX clone.
Chill dude. How do I run gcc in java beanshell?