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Re: Google have declared Droidscript is malware

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Post by kaibee »

Aperocky wrote: post #33
eplanit wrote: post #25

It's seriously time to re-embrace the idea of ownership and control of our devices, and reject Android and iOS altogether. Developing for those platforms has become worse and more restrictive over the years, and this kind of crap is now just everyday news. How good are Pinephones[1]? Are there better alternatives? [1] https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/

Maybe it's just time to see phones as what they are - a phone. I don't really care what software is ran in my truck, as long as it works (And that's why I'll not buy a Tesla). It's a phone, use it to call text and guide and browse some internet. That's it.

> I don't really care what software is ran in my truck, as long as it works

I mean, exactly what recourse do you think you'll have once it stops working..?

You'll sell your not working truck (to who?) and buy a new one (that is also soft-locked because it was the only way to stay competitive?)?

Right to Repair: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvVafMi0l68

Re: Google have declared Droidscript is malware

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Post by x86ARMsRace »

eplanit wrote: post #25

It's seriously time to re-embrace the idea of ownership and control of our devices, and reject Android and iOS altogether. Developing for those platforms has become worse and more restrictive over the years, and this kind of crap is now just everyday news. How good are Pinephones[1]? Are there better alternatives? [1] https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/

> Small numbers (1-3) of stuck or dead pixels are a characteristic of LCD screens. These are normal and should not be considered a defect.

Their product line does not really inspire much faith. I can't say I've bought a device in the past 10 years which has dead pixels on the display. To me, this is a defect, given that I can pick up a device, overwrite Windows with Linux, and have a device without dead pixels.

Re: Google have declared Droidscript is malware

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Post by AlwaysRock »

teamspirit wrote: post #11
thereddaikon wrote: post #4

Google is pretty infamous for the over reliance on automation for customer service. But ultimately the reason why they persist is because they can afford get away with it.

I think one day there will eventually be a class action lawsuit filed against one of these companies for their opaque customer response process. How did it get this way? How did we allow it and for so long? I really don't know. Here we are, the community involved yet somehow this method of customer [non]interaction grew out from underneath us. *spelling edit: fire -> for

What are you going to do? Stop using Google products? Good luck.

Re: Google have declared Droidscript is malware

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Post by NiceWayToDoIT »

It seems this is not a rare case, I know that my friend lost great portion of his investment in the app at the point when number of users on his app was enough to start getting braking even, Google just decided that some of his users are deliberately clicking on ads.

I guess that is way when you deal with company with too much power, there is no way to appall, complain, or do anything that will save your business. So, I guess, and from few stories I read if they find out that you have type of business that is interesting for them, they can simply suffocate your business by standard mafia means, like in the movies first they send a "negotiator", then they beat you a bit, and if you do not comply they "burn" your place down.

So, company that had slogan "Don't be evil!" what a joke...

Re: Google have declared Droidscript is malware

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Post by pdkl95 »

The War On General Purpose Computing[1][2] is escalating. The war has moved past trivial fights over copyright/"DRM", and is now directly targeting programming environments.

[1] https://boingboing.net/2012/01/10/lockdown.html

[2] https://boingboing.net/2012/08/23/civilwar.html

edit: fixed link - thanks for the bug report

Re: Google have declared Droidscript is malware

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Post by shadowgovt »

eplanit wrote: post #25

It's seriously time to re-embrace the idea of ownership and control of our devices, and reject Android and iOS altogether. Developing for those platforms has become worse and more restrictive over the years, and this kind of crap is now just everyday news. How good are Pinephones[1]? Are there better alternatives? [1] https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/

Most users would prefer a mostly safe experience and gladly give up the option to run arbitrary code on their device for that experience (including arbitrary code they've written). In an all-out "this or that" between allowing IDEs on the Play Store in general and giving the average Play Store user what they want, the IDEs would lose.

But it does suck if there is no legitimate way to release an IDE targeted to run on a mobile device via the Google Play Store.

Re: Google have declared Droidscript is malware

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Post by swebs »

eplanit wrote: post #25

It's seriously time to re-embrace the idea of ownership and control of our devices, and reject Android and iOS altogether. Developing for those platforms has become worse and more restrictive over the years, and this kind of crap is now just everyday news. How good are Pinephones[1]? Are there better alternatives? [1] https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/

>How good are Pinephones[1]? Are there better alternatives?

I like mine, but the ancient CPU needs a serious upgrade. There's also the Librem 5, but it looks like they're heavily back ordered.

Re: Google have declared Droidscript is malware

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Post by Aperocky »

goda90 wrote: post #37
Aperocky wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's just time to see phones as what they are - a phone. I don't really care what software is ran in my truck, as long as it works (And that's why I'll not buy a Tesla). It's a phone, use it to call text and guide and browse some internet. That's it.

Phones are the only pocket computers that see quick advances in performance and battery use. For someone who wants a pocket sized computer, it's just most convenient to combine it with your phone.

But they are horrible as production machines, at least until when our brain is no longer using our body as interfaces.

For pure pocket sized computing, why not use RPi? It's both much cheaper, more customizable, and it runs Linux. With enough tweaking you can make it run completely headless, plug-and-run mini computer that you can ssh over local network.

I think the biggest problem with the combining idea is that computing in general is about productivity, and phone is about phone stuff.

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