I might consider buying one when it is able to run proper Linux. And even then it's probably going to be limited to ARM Linux only.
"Limited to the CPU type that is installed"... how is that a "limit"?
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The Apple's second version of everything is always the one to get. The first version is always exciting, but usually comes at some large expense. - iPhone 2 had 3G and was so much better than 1 - iPad 2 was about 3 X slimmer/lighter than 1 Lots of other examples if I though about it.
What, in your opinion, is the drawback of the M1 product series? I haven’t read many negative reviews.
The most commonly cited limitation I've heard is a max of 16GB RAM on the current M1 Macbooks. The limitation of a single external monitor is probably the second most common.
A lot of users would like to run multiple external monitors and have > 16GB of RAM. I know I'm in that group.
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#173Cool! So now (or at least soon-ish) I can get my hands on some dirt cheap, practically never used M1 hardware on eBay to play around with? I wonder if Apple is familiar with the Osborne effect[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect
I don't think Apple will put the new processor in the existing M1 products, except for the 13" MacBook Pro.
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And are you thinking the solution for people who do need a powerful GPU is eGPUs and Mac Pros?
I don't think Apple cares much for those people, they can buy the Mac Pro or a PC if they really need the GPU power. eGPUs can be a nice addition, but I doubt Apple will release an official eGPU system. You're already limited to AMD GPUs after the clusterfuck of a fight Apple and Nvidia had, and I doubt Intel's Xe lineup will receive much love for Apple right after the Intel CPUs have been cut from Apple's products.…
> I doubt Apple will release an official eGPU system
They already have one[1], and you can even buy eGPUs from the Apple Store[2].
1. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208544
2. https://www.apple.com/sg/shop/product/HM8Y2B/A/blackmagic-eg...
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Really hoping for 128-256gb ram limit, perhaps on a separate ddr. E.g., any sort of serious data science work is now impossible on m1s simply because of ram limits.
In a laptop?
Maybe the commenter has a very interesting use for it, but why would you buy a 256 GB RAM machine (which isn't a lot of memory for this arena either) to develop the model, instead of using something smaller to work on it and leasing a big cluster for the minutes to hours of the day that you'll need to train it on the actual dataset?
Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac
#176Somewhere, the collective whos who of the silicon chip world is shitting their pants. Apple just showed to the world how powerful and efficient processors can be. All that with good design. Customers are going to demand more from Intel and the likes. Just imagine Apple releasing the Mx chips for server infrastructure. Intel ought to be sweating bullets now. edit: a word.
If we're honest most customers aren't going to notice the performance differences, it will mostly be people with heavy work loads.
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#177I hate to say that, but I am likely going to buy M2 Mac. I don't like Apple and their anti-competitive tactics, but I admit they won their spot for now. However, as soon as good PC competitor comes in, I'll drop Apple like a hot potato.
"Antitrust is okay if you have a fast processor"
It would seem to me there is fairly healthy competition between apple and windows laptops?
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I would prefer just one 6K or 8K monitor personally at a size of say 55" with a wide ratio. Simpler setup. No post in the middle. Something like this but bigger with higher resolution, and maybe a bit more height vertically (this one is a bit too wide for its height in my opinion): https://www.samsung.com/ca/monitors/gaming/super-ultra-wide-... I think that dual 4K is the old way, single 6K/8K ultra wides are the fut…
Do you have periodic weirdness on the thunderbolt monitor? Every so often, my m1 mini wakes or boots so that there’s a vertical misalignment by a pixel or two about halfway across. It’s like the desktop was cut in half and taped back together slightly crooked.
I have zero weirdness at all. It just works perfectly all the time.
Neither monitor supports Thunderbolt. But I run off of a USB-C to Display Port cable and one is using the HDMI port. Both run at 60Hz as it is HDMI 2.
Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac
#179This would be quite an accelerated timeline if Apple ships its second-generation M-series chip only eight months after the first. Typically, they’ve followed a sort of six-month tick-tock pattern for the A-series, launching a new major revision in the fall with the new iPhone, and launching an “X” revision in the spring with new iPads. I think most observers have been expecting an “M1X” for Apple's first pro-oriented…
Imagine they put Macbooks on a yearly upgrade cycle like the iPhone - OMG, that would be impressive.
I don't know if you're being serious but, given the lack of improvements in chip design lately, that would indeed be impressive.
I don't mind upgrading every other year. I just want the upgrades to be meaningful.
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I would prefer just one 6K or 8K monitor personally at a size of say 55" with a wide ratio. Simpler setup. No post in the middle. Something like this but bigger with higher resolution, and maybe a bit more height vertically (this one is a bit too wide for its height in my opinion): https://www.samsung.com/ca/monitors/gaming/super-ultra-wide-... I think that dual 4K is the old way, single 6K/8K ultra wides are the fut…
> I would prefer just one 6K or 8K monitor personally Sure but the Air and MBP already support 6k external displays. They don’t support 2x4K.
I do agree. But what I am trying to say is that we should be pushing for 6K and 8K ultra wide monitors rather than the old hack of 2 monitors to one computer.