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Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

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Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

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Post by jonwachob91 »

octopoc wrote: post #97
samgranieri wrote: post #55

I really want the next MacBook Pro to support driving two 4K monitors over thunderbolt and have an option to buy 32 gigs of ram.

The latest Macbook Pro 16" supports 32GB or 64GB RAM [1]. It's been that way for a few generations. I have the 2018 model and it has 32GB. I think that might have been the first generation where that much RAM was supported. [1] https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-16/specs/ edit: oh right, that's not M1 brainfart

Those are intel based Macs. This being an article about the M1 going into mass production, it's probably fair to say the parent comment was referring to those specs in an M1 Mac, not an intel Mac.

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

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Post by twobitshifter »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #26
varispeed wrote: post #14

I hate to say that, but I am likely going to buy M2 Mac. I don't like Apple and their anti-competitive tactics, but I admit they won their spot for now. However, as soon as good PC competitor comes in, I'll drop Apple like a hot potato.

"Antitrust is okay if you have a fast processor"

For CPUs Apple is actually upending the AMD Intel duopoly, isn’t that good for competition? Furthermore, AMD only recently broke back into the market, which Intel had a stranglehold on. This is the most competitive the CPU market has been since the early 00s.

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

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Post by asciimov »

solarkraft wrote: post #89
bhouston wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would prefer just one 6K or 8K monitor personally at a size of say 55" with a wide ratio. Simpler setup. No post in the middle. Something like this but bigger with higher resolution, and maybe a bit more height vertically (this one is a bit too wide for its height in my opinion): https://www.samsung.com/ca/monitors/gaming/super-ultra-wide-... I think that dual 4K is the old way, single 6K/8K ultra wides are the fut…

I use a 55" 4K Samsung TV as a monitor. It cold boots quickly and has no latency or subsampling issues in the right mode. I can recommend it as a more cost effective alternative to multiple monitors. The amount of available screen space at 1:1 is refreshing (not as crazy as imagined though), but it makes me realize how grainy "normal" monitors are. In some years 8K TVs might be cheap enough for an upgrade, but on tha…

How far back do you sit from this monitor? Do you use resolution scaling?

The last time I tried a large format display, I couldn't move back far enough to make it work but I really loved working in 4k without scaling.

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Post by jbverschoor »

Thaxll wrote: post #42
sesteel wrote: post #6

If Apple is having this kind of success, it seems they should look to compete in the data center with this or the following generation of chips. I wonder if it is a good time to invest in Apple.

How would they be succesful in DC? Designing a product for consumers is very different than for servers. On top of that you add terrible server support for MacOS.

They only need to support a Linux kernel. They’ve used google cloud, azure, now aws. The contract is worth billions, and will end in 23 or 24.it’s very likely they’ll at least sun their own cloud completely. And maybe they’ll compete as a public cloud later

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Post by alanwreath »

niels_bom wrote: post #74
jonplackett wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Apple's second version of everything is always the one to get. The first version is always exciting, but usually comes at some large expense. - iPhone 2 had 3G and was so much better than 1 - iPad 2 was about 3 X slimmer/lighter than 1 Lots of other examples if I though about it.

What, in your opinion, is the drawback of the M1 product series? I haven’t read many negative reviews.

multi monitor support. You can have two monitors max.

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Post by volta83 »

Pulcinella wrote: post #81
jeroenhd wrote: post #53

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Nvidia? Ha, never in a million years. Support for one of the recent Radeons was recently added to macOS, so it's a possibility. No reason the M1 can't do PCIe, as far as I know the only thing keeping eGPUs from working on the M1 right now is software support. It could also be that the driver was added because of the extensibility of the Pro, though. My expectation is that they'll keep the GPU on the same level, which…

Yeah I imagine the Radeon support was for the Pro and the existing Intel Macs (though I don’t know if those Radeon GPUs are really supported via eGPU. Are there enclosures where they fit?) Still I can’t see Apple only developing one integrated GPU per year unless they somehow figure out how to magically make them somewhat approach Nvidia and AMDs modern chips. What would the ARM Mac Pro use? It seems that Apple has p…

> Still I can’t see Apple only developing one integrated GPU per year unless they somehow figure out how to magically make them somewhat approach Nvidia and AMDs modern chips. What would the ARM Mac Pro use?

What do mac users need a beefy gpu for?

AFAICT apple just need a GPU that's good enough for most users not to complain, integrated Intel-GPU style.

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Post by sneak »

postalrat wrote: post #40
sneak wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't mean just Apple. I just meant the fastest laptop money can buy.

The fastest laptop money can buy has always been available. I guess this is the first time you are considering buying one?

Sometimes I fantasize about printing a t-shirt that simply says "shut up, you know what I meant".

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Post by tl »

volta83 wrote: post #85
tmccrary55 wrote: post #23

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I'm really hoping Alder Lake or a similar AMD product gets PC closer to M1+ performance and battery consumption. The M1 chip is amazing but I'm a tiling window manager man.

This is Mac OS: - https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/jupmda/aquayabai_... - https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/mvuplf/yabaimacos... Its called Yabai (+ skhd): https://github.com/koekeishiya/yabai That is, you can have a tilin WM today with all the advantages of running MacOS.

From your third link:

   System Integrity Protection needs to be (partially) disabled
   for yabai to inject a scripting addition into Dock.app for
   controlling windows with functions that require elevated
   privileges. This enables control of the window server, which
   is the sole owner of all window connections, and enables
   additional features of yabai.
The risk Apple kills yabai after you're adjusted to it is real.
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