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Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

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Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

#71

I hate to say that, but I am likely going to buy M2 Mac. I don't like Apple and their anti-competitive tactics, but I admit they won their spot for now. However, as soon as good PC competitor comes in, I'll drop Apple like a hot potato.

Well, here's hoping that both Linux and Windows work flawlessly on their hardware at some point.

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

#72

All very impressive, but here's my question: what are they going to do about graphics cards? Will they find a way to connect existing graphics cards to their CPU? Will they make their own ARM-based graphics cards? Will AMD or Nvidia?

Option 1 - yes, they will Option 2 - no, but does it matter? It's not like the previous gen Macs had great GPUs and no one is gaming on a Mac anyway. Option 2.5 - bring back eGPU

> no, but does it matter? It's not like the previous gen Macs had great GPUs and no one is gaming on a Mac anyway.

True, but previous macs were never really competitive with PC alternatives on the hardware side, since they all used the same chips just with a higher price tag. With M1, that's starting to change, and Apple has the opportunity to attract a much large customer base for Mac than it ever has.

And of course, they're much more interested in gaming nowadays thanks to iOS. Maybe not interested enough to suck up their pride and apologize to Nvidia for giving them the finger, but probably enough to at least stick a beefier GPU into macs.

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

#73

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The Apple's second version of everything is always the one to get. The first version is always exciting, but usually comes at some large expense. - iPhone 2 had 3G and was so much better than 1 - iPad 2 was about 3 X slimmer/lighter than 1 Lots of other examples if I though about it.

I still have an iPad 2. I use it in the kitchen to browse recipes.

I still have another one near bed for reading eBooks

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

#74

I hate to say that, but I am likely going to buy M2 Mac. I don't like Apple and their anti-competitive tactics, but I admit they won their spot for now. However, as soon as good PC competitor comes in, I'll drop Apple like a hot potato.

The Apple's second version of everything is always the one to get. The first version is always exciting, but usually comes at some large expense. - iPhone 2 had 3G and was so much better than 1 - iPad 2 was about 3 X slimmer/lighter than 1 Lots of other examples if I though about it.

What, in your opinion, is the drawback of the M1 product series?

I haven’t read many negative reviews.

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

#75
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M for mobile could make sense given they've just put an M1 in an iPad Pro. I assumed it was Mac before that and we'd get an M1X or something for higher end models but that seems wrong now.

...but they also just put it in the iMac...

The iMac has long used laptop grade parts.

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

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If Apple is having this kind of success, it seems they should look to compete in the data center with this or the following generation of chips. I wonder if it is a good time to invest in Apple.

Do you mean that they should start making and selling servers? It's unlikely.

Or do you mean that they'll start selling parts (SoCs)? Not in a million years :-)

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

#77

I really want the next MacBook Pro to support driving two 4K monitors over thunderbolt and have an option to buy 32 gigs of ram.

I would prefer just one 6K or 8K monitor personally at a size of say 55" with a wide ratio. Simpler setup. No post in the middle. Something like this but bigger with higher resolution, and maybe a bit more height vertically (this one is a bit too wide for its height in my opinion): https://www.samsung.com/ca/monitors/gaming/super-ultra-wide-...

I think that dual 4K is the old way, single 6K/8K ultra wides are the future.

That said I am rocking the dual 4Ks on the Mac Mini M1 and it works great: https://twitter.com/BenHouston3D/status/1384693982249340935

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

#78

I really want the next MacBook Pro to support driving two 4K monitors over thunderbolt and have an option to buy 32 gigs of ram.

I suspect that the MacBook Pro 16 will probably one of the first M2 offerings and it already offers up to 64g of RAM, so hopefully you’ll get your wish.

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

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If Apple is having this kind of success, it seems they should look to compete in the data center with this or the following generation of chips. I wonder if it is a good time to invest in Apple.

What's in it for Apple? I'm not trying to be glib, here, but unless there were some Mac only server functionality, nobody would buy an Apple ARM powered datacentre machine.

If Linux was supported, it would be an interesting competitor to AWS's graviton instances.

As for what's in it for Apple, it would be the profit from selling a hopefully large number of chips, but adding official Linux support and also commuting to an entire new market for a minimum of three years is probably far higher a cost on focus than any potential profits.

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

#80

Is anything known about the chip? The deal breaker of M1 (for me) as it currently stands is the amount of RAM it can handle (16 GB). Edit: Mistyped 16 as 1, sorry about the confusion

I've only read very rare workloads actually be constrained by 16GB on the M1, what use case do you have that you know will be hampered on a M1?
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