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iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by SilverRed »

toxik wrote: post #410
jdminhbg wrote: post #397

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> you MUST enable a passcode on your Apple Watch to use this feature at all (and they're relying on the Apple Watch being less aggressive to re-lock than the iPhone). When you refer to the Apple Watch being “less aggressive to re-lock,” you’re really overselling it. The Watch does not re-lock for the entire time it’s on your wrist after you first unlock it (which you can do with FaceID on your phone). I go weeks with…

Your battery lasts weeks? I unlock once per day, which is when I put the watch on my wrist.

The watch unlocks if you unlock your phone while wearing it.

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Post by SilverRed »

iso1631 wrote: post #418
jensvdh wrote: post #165

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I hate TouchID, never works when my fingers are sweaty or I'm cooking or anything like that. FaceID is perfect.

There's no reason that a phone couldn't have touchid and faceid, other than the desire for every square mm of space to be a screen (any didn't they have touch ID on the back of the phone for a while too?)

Thats a very big "other than" virtually all users like and want to keep the full screen size. Their best next move would be to include underscreen fingerprint scanning and face id in the next iphone.

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Post by fomine3 »

jen20 wrote: post #208
ASalazarMX wrote: post #189

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Why not have both? This whole topic would be a non-issue if we still had Touch ID as an option.

How about anywhere cold enough to require gloves, and reasonable enough to require face masks?

Iris auth on Galaxy S8/S9 was great but it's gone.

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Post by SilverRed »

gambiting wrote: post #141
adrr wrote: post #135

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Face unlock for Samsung phones provides no security unlike FaceId. So really Samsung just has a fingerprint scanner. https://www.samsung.com/ph/support/mobile-devices/can-you-un...

On my S21 you can tick a "fast unlock" option for face unlock which comes with a warning that it can be fooled by a picture then. So I'm assuming that by default it can't?

From samsungs site "This will improve the recognition speed but also reduces security, increasing the possibility of a video or image being incorrectly recognized as your face."

So I assume both can be tricked but one is a little better.

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Post by kalleboo »

NightMKoder wrote: post #406
kalleboo wrote: post #379

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> Apple could have thrown a bone to folks and just allowed passing url parameters or similar through the App Store links to the app after it’s installed I thought they already allowed this through deferred deep linking?

Hmm I’m not aware of a way to do that short of fingerprinting a browser and running the same fingerprint on app launch. Would you happen to have docs for that approach?

I thought that Universal Links supported this, but doing some more research it seems I was mistaken

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Post by philliphaydon »

macintux wrote: post #66
fuzzy2 wrote: post #51

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> - This doesn't even solve the issue. Right you are, but for a different reason: Face masks entirely break Apple Pay. If you have an Apple Watch, lucky you, you can use the watch to pay instead. If you don’t? Well, tough luck. Unlock with Watch apparently does not work with Apple Pay. /e: Wasn’t aware of activating Pay using the code. Oops. :D

> Unlock with Watch apparently does not work with Apple Pay. I find Apple Pay so much easier to use with the Watch that I never can remember how to use it on the phone.

I've been using Apple Pay from my watch since I got it, but only 2 weeks ago I found out I can pay for the Bus and MRT with my watch also! So I no longer need to carry around 1 additional card. (Singapore)

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Post by AnonC »

noodlesUK wrote: post #380
dwaite wrote: post #339

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> If you're detained or mugged, just looking at your phone will unlock it before you can react and look away. As far as hypothetical situations go, I prefer this over them cutting off my finger. More seriously, in a situation where I'm detained or mugged, there will be a lot of external factors which are pushing me to unlock my phone, be it via passcode or biometrics. FWIW, "SOS mode" (holding the power and volume up…

Most fingerprint (and other biometric devices) sensors do liveness checks

That expects all the muggers to know this fact and would avoid cutting fingers.

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Post by culturestate »

mackrevinack wrote: post #412
culturestate wrote: post #401

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> Perhaps you’ve forgotten how many usability compromises you’ve made in using Face ID, but I guarantee it’s slower Counterpoint: with Face ID, if my phone is facing me I can interact with it just by looking in its direction. Got a message while I'm at my desk? I look at it, it unlocks and shows me the notification. Cooking and a timer goes off? I look at it, it lowers the volume of the alarm. Everything has trade-of…

but what do you if you don't want it to unlock? like if you were in work and someone send you a nsfw message that you don't want your coworkers to see, or maybe you are in a car with other people etc etc. ...there's no way to stop that right? at least with a fingerprint reader you can choose to glance at the lockscreen messages first before unlocking

You can disable the attention-aware features if you want to, even independent of Face ID itself, and it obviously respects DND settings.

I keep notification contents hidden while the phone is locked anyway, so I'd need to authenticate before it shows me the message in either case.

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Post by culturestate »

asutekku wrote: post #413
mackrevinack wrote: post #412

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but what do you if you don't want it to unlock? like if you were in work and someone send you a nsfw message that you don't want your coworkers to see, or maybe you are in a car with other people etc etc. ...there's no way to stop that right? at least with a fingerprint reader you can choose to glance at the lockscreen messages first before unlocking

Just looking at the screen does not unlock the device as you still need to swipe up to close the lockscreen. Before that, it does exactly as you describe, shows a glance on the lockscreen.

To clarify, it does unlock the phone - i.e. you are authenticated as you after you look at it - but you're right that it doesn't open the full message unless you tap on the notification.
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