Roku says it may lose YouTube TV app after Google made anti-competitive demands

Post by wyldfire » Tue, Apr 27, 2021, 3:06 AM UTC

sircastor wrote: post #158

etempleton wrote: post #142

HBO Max was delayed in appearing on Roku because of negotiation breakdowns. In the case HBO it was Roku that seemed to have the demands. They are looking at revenue anywhere they can, but if their position weakens look for Google, ATT, and others to simply forgo working with them. I think Roku is in a perilous position in general. They generated a lot of buzz on Wallstreet with their high user counts. They also purch…

The reason I picked and stay with Roku is that they aren't married to a single Big Tech co. I already suffer the lack of a proper YouTube app on my Echo Show because Amazon and Google are having a tiff. I don't want to pick an ecosystem and live exclusively inside of it. As it is, I'm already in a mixed household (Me with iOS and my wife with Android) and it's a pain to deal with the lack of cross-platform playing to…

Post by scarface74 » Tue, Apr 27, 2021, 3:09 AM UTC

Cd00d wrote: post #230

dyingkneepad wrote: post #155

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Well, there are also Roku TVs now.

I recently bought a TCL TV with a Roku OS. I think it's great. It was cheap. I'm a fan of Roku (been with them since 2008 or so). I'm disappointed to see these tiffs with content companies. Remember the time when every video you wanted to play on your computer required a different software player? Are these companies planning on re-doing all that with hardware ? "Oh, I have a Roku for most things, then plug in Apple…

Post by nvrspyx » Tue, Apr 27, 2021, 3:28 AM UTC

mikeryan wrote: post #283

etempleton wrote: post #142

HBO Max was delayed in appearing on Roku because of negotiation breakdowns. In the case HBO it was Roku that seemed to have the demands. They are looking at revenue anywhere they can, but if their position weakens look for Google, ATT, and others to simply forgo working with them. I think Roku is in a perilous position in general. They generated a lot of buzz on Wallstreet with their high user counts. They also purch…

TV manufacturers have mostly chosen to create and maintain their own ecosystems. This is actually a declining trend. LG and Samsung do but Moore's law has gotten it to a point where Android TV and, in fact Roku's platform are becoming much more prevalent on TVs, particularly some of the newer lower end devices. There's a large cost to maintaining your own HTML based platform (which is what most 3rd parties are) and t…

Post by jolux » Tue, Apr 27, 2021, 3:47 AM UTC

thayne wrote: post #316

etempleton wrote: post #142

HBO Max was delayed in appearing on Roku because of negotiation breakdowns. In the case HBO it was Roku that seemed to have the demands. They are looking at revenue anywhere they can, but if their position weakens look for Google, ATT, and others to simply forgo working with them. I think Roku is in a perilous position in general. They generated a lot of buzz on Wallstreet with their high user counts. They also purch…

What is (mostly) unique about Roku, and one of the main reasons I went with a Roku is that it isn't made by the same company as one of the big streaming services, and is therefore less likely to privlege that service. If they start giving special privileges to youtube, then Roku just becomes a third party Android TV device.

Post by thayne » Tue, Apr 27, 2021, 3:51 AM UTC

jolux wrote: post #317

thayne wrote: post #316

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What is (mostly) unique about Roku, and one of the main reasons I went with a Roku is that it isn't made by the same company as one of the big streaming services, and is therefore less likely to privlege that service. If they start giving special privileges to youtube, then Roku just becomes a third party Android TV device.

Apple TV isn't made by a big streaming service either.