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iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Lol @ your attempt to shame me. It doesn't work because I regret nothing, and apologize for nothing. It's not illegal to seek feedback about self from others. It's not illegal to be tall, young, male, english speaking. And most of all, it's not illegal to think a woman with a beard emoji is ridiculous.

" I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express. " - XKCD 1357 alt text. > " it's not illegal to think a woman with a beard emoji is ridiculous. " Did you put any thought about anyone other than yoursel…

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Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Touch ID is an entirely superior technology and Apple is profoundly stupid for removing it. It doesn't have to be in the screen, just put it on the back. The lengths they'll go to offset the removal of Touch ID are astounding, from IR face tracking, to degraded biometric security, and now to requiring an Apple Watch to unlock the phone with your mask on. Talk about a Rube Goldberg machine.

Sorry, it’s not. Face ID: Just pick up your phone and your phone automatically unlocks with your face. This experience is way superior than having to position your finger at a specific place every time you want to unlock it. Putting it on the back is even worse, you need to actually pick up your phone from the desk just to unlock it. I swear HN readers would create devices with the worst UX possible.

If you haven’t unlocked your phone by the time you’re looking at it you’re doing it slower than I am. Typically my phone is unlocked before I’ve even fully pulled it out of my pocket. The muscle memory for thumb (or finger placement if it’s on the back) is a pretty low barrier to usability, and can be learned quickly.

Can you unlock your phone without moving it in front of your face? I can, if it’s sitting across my desk I can unlock it without picking it up or moving my head towards it. I do this regularly.

Perhaps you’ve forgotten how many usability compromises you’ve made in using Face ID, but I guarantee it’s slower.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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The phone will show 5G when you're a carrier w/ a 5G network in the area, even if the phone itself is on a 4G network. The phone will choose to stay on the 4G network if it's trying to stay in a lower-power mode (eg: fetching notifications & emails in the background), and will dynamically jump to 5G on an as-needed basis.

Can you point to any official documentation on this? From all of my testing, I have not found this to be the case.

From the official support document for the Smart Data feature:

> 5G Auto: Enables Smart Data mode. When 5G speeds don’t provide a noticeably better experience, your iPhone automatically switches to LTE, saving battery life.

Having used an iPhone 12 in an area with 5G service, I haven’t yet noticed the phone reporting LTE speeds, but given the way the statement above is worded (‘noticeably better’ is doing a lot of heavy lifting), I wouldn’t be surprised if the phone is mostly on LTE when it’s sitting idle or when I’m doing something like web browsing or music streaming that’s otherwise well within the capabilities of an LTE network.

[0] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211828

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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post #168

Touch ID is an entirely superior technology and Apple is profoundly stupid for removing it. It doesn't have to be in the screen, just put it on the back. The lengths they'll go to offset the removal of Touch ID are astounding, from IR face tracking, to degraded biometric security, and now to requiring an Apple Watch to unlock the phone with your mask on. Talk about a Rube Goldberg machine.

Apple Watch is not required; it is a convenience option that can be used to unlock the phone if you are masked.

What I said was "requiring an Apple Watch to unlock the phone with your mask on", so I'm not sure what you're correcting.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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So if I can unlock my phone with FaceID + Apple Watch + Mask. Then in theory, wouldn't ANY person with a mask be able to unlock my phone? If you steal the phone at the right time, and unlock the phone while wearing a mask and still be in proximity to the victim wearing the watch. You will have an unlocked iPhone at your disposal. Quickly disable all of the security features, remove the SIM, and now you have a $1000+…

The watch vibrates on unlock with a prompt to lock the phone. It's also an opt in setting not an opt out. It also only enables unlock and not other features that require face id

I see that, however is there a way to remotely lock the iPhone from the watch? There is a small window to tap the “Lock iPhone” button before it disappears and the phone is unlocked. Or a clever person throws the phone in a faraday cage and thus blocks the lock signal from the watch.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Anyone else sometimes put in their Apple Watch from the charger, and notice it’s already unlocked? I.e they never needed to unlock it?

I think by default the apple watch unlocks when you unlock your phone. There is a setting to disable this if you'd like.

As a result, although my watch has a passcode i almost never type it in. It's easier to put on my watch and then unlock my phone.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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post #331

So if I can unlock my phone with FaceID + Apple Watch + Mask. Then in theory, wouldn't ANY person with a mask be able to unlock my phone? If you steal the phone at the right time, and unlock the phone while wearing a mask and still be in proximity to the victim wearing the watch. You will have an unlocked iPhone at your disposal. Quickly disable all of the security features, remove the SIM, and now you have a $1000+…

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Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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post #365
post #352

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The watch vibrates on unlock with a prompt to lock the phone. It's also an opt in setting not an opt out. It also only enables unlock and not other features that require face id

I see that, however is there a way to remotely lock the iPhone from the watch? There is a small window to tap the “Lock iPhone” button before it disappears and the phone is unlocked. Or a clever person throws the phone in a faraday cage and thus blocks the lock signal from the watch.

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This sounds insecure. Do you store the user’s password on disk?

No, I store on OS-X's keychain. You made a fair and necessary question but I'd be embarrassed to even think about storing the password on disk, even if encrypted.

Unless you’re on a machine with a hardware security module, isn’t keychain just stored somewhere on disk anyway?

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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> That was their claim, however my observation is that it just takes longer to fail before offering "swipe up to get the passcode interface" If I have a mask on, swiping up immediately brings up the pass code screen. In this case immediately is <0.5 secs.

And for me, it regularly doesn't, taking the full timeout period.

I wonder if this is an issue for the older apple watches or if it happens for the new ones too.
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