Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

apple.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

351–360 of 459 posts

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

#351

Post by dagmx »

da_big_ghey wrote: post #246
mcphage wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and now I am HYPER offended that they're not included Are you actually offended? Or are you just claiming to be offended in order to get your way, while simultaneously complaining that other people claim to be offended to get their way?

he is making point that such request are silly, like other thing such as beard lady. maybe some chick is wearing a lot of make up, but we are not needing to make "make up" emoji for to represent.

Why does it affect you? Literally this has zero negative impact on you other than you being incensed over it.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

#352

Post by dagmx »

xyst wrote: post #331

So if I can unlock my phone with FaceID + Apple Watch + Mask. Then in theory, wouldn't ANY person with a mask be able to unlock my phone? If you steal the phone at the right time, and unlock the phone while wearing a mask and still be in proximity to the victim wearing the watch. You will have an unlocked iPhone at your disposal. Quickly disable all of the security features, remove the SIM, and now you have a $1000+…

The watch vibrates on unlock with a prompt to lock the phone. It's also an opt in setting not an opt out.

It also only enables unlock and not other features that require face id

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

#353

Post by 1123581321 »

philsnow wrote: post #253
masklinn wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FaceID is perfect in no sense of the term. FaceID works better when your hands are dirty or unavailable (e.g. you're wearing gloves), TouchID works better when your face is covered or your look changed slightly[0]. FaceID has been a strict downgrade for me, there are very few situations where FaceID works and TouchID wouldn't have, the reverse is a daily occurrence. And things would be even worse if I couldn't work f…

my vision is poor enough that without contacts/glasses I can't simultaneously both 1. hold the phone far enough away from my face for faceid to work, and 2. focus my eyes on the screen so if I wake up in the middle of the night, I always have to use my passcode to unlock my phone.

Same issue here. I have found a way to sort of look past the phone that reliably unlocks at night.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

#354

Post by Izikiel43 »

tinyprojects wrote: post #164

Everyone is missing the point. This is the start of a major battle between two tech juggernauts. One look at the Facebook ads manager will show you Facebook is very scared about this privacy update and trying to do everything in their power to mitigate it. Apple is the gatekeeper and Facebook can't do anything about it. Their dominant revenue stream is about to be strangled. I think Zuckerberg realizes he is screwed…

> This is the start of a major battle between two tech juggernauts.

So are you saying it's time to make popcorn and watch the ensuing mayhem?

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

#355

Post by mensetmanusman »

Someone1234 wrote: post #9

In regard to unlock w/Apple Watch: - This is an issue of Apple's own artificial creation. - This doesn't even solve the issue. So this all started because Face Unlock didn't work with masks, that's not Apple's fault. But what is entirely Apple's fault is that they break an option which resolves this only when Face Unlock is enabled: "Require Passcode." When you disable Face Unlock you can set Require Passcode to e.g.…

Our corporate iPhones require passwords every 2 minutes, because apparently having to type the passcode in dozens of times a day in the public is a better security model.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

#356

Post by mensetmanusman »

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #35
zuppy wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they actually do this, but it doesn’t look like a button. the “face id” text that is shown when it tries to recognize your face is clickable and it brings the password form. awesome ux...

Wow, thanks for the tip. I would never in a million years have discovered this otherwise. I don't know if Apple's UX design has gone downhill lately or if I'm just getting older and stupider.

A good idea would be “discovery mode” where buttons appear everywhere which explain what can be done if you don’t want the floating buttons around.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

#357

Post by germinalphrase »

justapassenger wrote: post #328
lethologica wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Better the devil you know. For now, I know that this devil doesn’t sell my information to hundreds of other devils.

It’s because they couldn’t figure out how to get better ROI from data processing than they get from positioning themselves as tron, fighting for the user. Once they figure it out, their story will change very quickly. It’s naive to think that sending data to other huge company is proper solution.

Call me naive, but maybe having a formerly closeted homosexual baby boomer from Alabama at the helm underscores the stakes a bit.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

#358

Post by cameronh90 »

justicz wrote: post #346
willis936 wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was their claim, however my observation is that it just takes longer to fail before offering "swipe up to get the passcode interface". I have to waste many seconds of staring at my phone just to have the privilege of swiping up to spin the passcode interface display slot machine. You know what would work? Just showing the passcode interface as soon as the screen turns on.

FYI if you tap the text in the center of the screen that says "Face ID" while it's scanning, it'll bring up the passcode screen immediately.

Doesn't work on my iPad.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

#359

Post by ngcc_hk »

skavi wrote: post #292
skavi wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only Android phone with secure face unlock was the Pixel 4, which didn’t have a fingerprint sensor. Some Samsung devices had iris unlock, which was also fairly secure, but even more finicky than face unlock.

Correction: the Huawei Mate series also includes 3D face unlock. However, at least the initial version on the Mate 20 was not as secure as Face ID.

Guess you miss the memo. The whole thing is avoid the authority. Is there an authority behind that I do not certain. But lots of our brothers and sisters do and did.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

#360

Post by NoPicklez »

mirthflat83 wrote: post #248
lwansbrough wrote: post #154

Touch ID is an entirely superior technology and Apple is profoundly stupid for removing it. It doesn't have to be in the screen, just put it on the back. The lengths they'll go to offset the removal of Touch ID are astounding, from IR face tracking, to degraded biometric security, and now to requiring an Apple Watch to unlock the phone with your mask on. Talk about a Rube Goldberg machine.

Sorry, it’s not. Face ID: Just pick up your phone and your phone automatically unlocks with your face. This experience is way superior than having to position your finger at a specific place every time you want to unlock it. Putting it on the back is even worse, you need to actually pick up your phone from the desk just to unlock it. I swear HN readers would create devices with the worst UX possible.

I'd argue that when I used to pick my phone up, I'd place my thumb on the touch ID location as I was raising the phone to my face and it would unlock quicker than face ID.

I don't have a problem with either options, but I do think touch ID was slightly faster.

Post reply on HN