So if I can unlock my phone with FaceID + Apple Watch + Mask. Then in theory, wouldn't ANY person with a mask be able to unlock my phone? If you steal the phone at the right time, and unlock the phone while wearing a mask and still be in proximity to the victim wearing the watch. You will have an unlocked iPhone at your disposal. Quickly disable all of the security features, remove the SIM, and now you have a $1000+ item you can fence.
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#334Touch ID is an entirely superior technology and Apple is profoundly stupid for removing it. It doesn't have to be in the screen, just put it on the back. The lengths they'll go to offset the removal of Touch ID are astounding, from IR face tracking, to degraded biometric security, and now to requiring an Apple Watch to unlock the phone with your mask on. Talk about a Rube Goldberg machine.
Both is fine with me. FaceID is great for any time you've got gloves on. I wish they had an external version of it, e.g. an apple keyboard with touchID or support for generic webcams for FaceID so it'd work when docked, etc.
The Apple Watch has a nice function where it can substitute for TouchID/password entry for things like unlocking your Mac, authorizing changes to settings, unlocking 1Password etc.
Makes using my laptop docked way more enjoyable.
https://support.apple.com/guide/watch/unlock-your-mac-with-a...
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Culture isn't going to lead to women magically sprouting beards. It may make the small percentage of women with facial hair not shave it off, but most women of whatever culture you're talking about(Sikh I presume) aren't going to have a beard because they can't grow one in the first place. Somewhat related, but this thread made me look into it - and it seems a huge oversight that there isn't a "pregnant man" emoji -…
7% of women naturally grow facial hair. It's not really a "small percentage." https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/why-women-grow-facia...
In that "naturally growing" number are women who suffer from PCOS or other hormonal disorders. So the number is smaller than 7% for women that naturally grow hair absent some kind of disorder. And of those that remain, many grow hair but it would not be classifiable as a beard. So I would stand by my statement that this only affects a small percentage of women.
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#336Feels a bit of a Rube-Goldberg workaround when TouchID exists. Love my TouchID to the point I'm dreading when Apple makes no more TouchID phones
Apple's insistence on only having face ID when competitors have fantastic and very fast in-screen fingerprint readers is just idiotic. I was kind of onboard when they first introduced FaceID, the argument that they don't want the sensor on the back and there is no room on the front was fair enough, but right now the technology has caught up. It's crazy that you can unlock a Samsung with your face OR an in-screen fing…
It's crazy that you can unlock a Samsung with your face OR an in-screen fingerprint reader, but you can't an iPhone.
I don't think it's crazy when one considers that Samsung will put that stuff on a phone, and whether it works or not is the customer's problem. We've forgotten Samsung's earlier "face unlock" attempts, haven't we? I haven't, it was bad enough to be one of the major factors in getting me to quit using Samsung phones (and Android in general). So to argue "well, Samsung does it", meh, maybe Samsung does, maybe Samsung lets the person that stole my phone unlock that phone with my photo.
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#337For fucks sake it still requires the phone to recognize the fact that you're wearing the mask to allow AW unlock—and good luck if the mask isn't the one Apple trained this shit on or lighting conditions are not optimal.
I do want to look the manager who decided that in the eye. What serious attack vector is this supposed to close? Somebody sawing your hand off and unlocking your phone? You have much bigger problems then.
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Why not have both? This whole topic would be a non-issue if we still had Touch ID as an option.
Now you're taking up a fair bit of front of the phone real estate (and adding some cost) for a feature that I'm guessing most people don't care about. [ADDED: As others note there are potentially other options though that don't involve putting the home button back.]
My Samsung S10e has the fingerprint reader on the power button. I have it set to recognize my left index finger and right thumb. Works great.
The touchID on my new MacBook Pro is extremely useful. Trained on right index finger.
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Still sounds weird to me. I use an Android phone, I can unlock my phone at anytime using either face, fingerprint, or passcode. What exactly is the reason/rationale that it has to fail on facial recognition first before proceeding to use passcode?
> What exactly is the reason/rationale that it has to fail on facial recognition first before proceeding to use passcode? C O U R A G E Joke aside, it seems that Face ID was a tremendous technical effort so you could have instant access to your phone. Besides unlocking, there's no other serious application (memojis aside). The fingerprint reader was probably removed just to prop acceptance of Face ID. Also, Face ID i…
> If you're detained or mugged, just looking at your phone will unlock it before you can react and look away.
As far as hypothetical situations go, I prefer this over them cutting off my finger.
More seriously, in a situation where I'm detained or mugged, there will be a lot of external factors which are pushing me to unlock my phone, be it via passcode or biometrics.
FWIW, "SOS mode" (holding the power and volume up buttons) will purge information needed for biometrics to work and mandate a PIN on both TouchID and FaceID devices.
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You're wealthy, tall, young, male, English-speaking programmer who posts about how they are "constantly called the smartest person people know", whining that other people being represented by emojis is inconvenient to you so it shouldn't be allowed. That should cause some embarassment and self-reflection.
Lol @ your attempt to shame me. It doesn't work because I regret nothing, and apologize for nothing. It's not illegal to seek feedback about self from others. It's not illegal to be tall, young, male, english speaking. And most of all, it's not illegal to think a woman with a beard emoji is ridiculous.
"I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express." - XKCD 1357 alt text.
> "it's not illegal to think a woman with a beard emoji is ridiculous."
Did you put any thought about anyone other than yourself before deciding this? What thought did you put in before deciding it's ridiculous?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwTt8ov6LGs - 3 women with facial hair talk to Marie Claire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVcHhcIdCSs - Bearded Sikh woman "bullied to the point of suicide" talks to This Morning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79fIZSKBjXg - Life of a Bearded Girl, interview / discussion with Dr Parameshwar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFpE6moREGY - Bearded Lady interviewed with This Morning.
Appears that it's caused by Poly-Cystic Ovary Syndrome/Disease, which is "one of the most common causes of female infertility, affecting 6% to 12% (as many as 5 million) of US women of reproductive age." says the CDC.