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Why are they using such a complicated ice cream machine? I worked in food service in the 2010s and ours was pretty simple. One switch at the back for on and off and that was it. It took one person like 10 minutes to break it down and have it cleaned at the end of the night. The hardest part was wiping the exterior down. You basically just put a bucket underneath, ran the ice cream out, then ran hot water through it (…
It sounds like the idea is to only have to spend time manually cleaning it every fortnight instead of daily, and perhaps to limit waste of the product? But perhaps that gets offset by the fact that the increased complexity seems to make it so difficult to operate that it leads to constant interruptions and expensive service calls.
Investigating why McDonald's ice cream machines are often broken [video]
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Re: Investigating why McDonald's ice cream machines are often broken [video]
#232Tldw: the machine throws obscure error codes (too viscous, failure to heat to proper temps, etc) and can “lock out” the operator, who has to then call an authorized service technician that bills hundreds of dollars for repair. Any attempt to self repair or hire someone else will void the warranty and is disallowed by McDonald’s corporate. The ice cream maker company, Taylor, reports 25% of their revenue is service an…
As someone who worked in stores for years, this isn’t entirely accurate. The machine isn’t just being an asshole to drive up service calls. The machines are filled with a dairy product which makes the “ice cream”. This is boiled nightly to keep the mixture free of bacteria. If the nightly heat cycle fails to complete for one of a dozen reasons the machine locks out. Those unaware of the process usually end up calling…
Re: Investigating why McDonald's ice cream machines are often broken [video]
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The reporting is based on conversations with franchisees, who are a part of the equation here too. McDonalds franchisees are always in a tug of war with the company over various issues, especially loss leader products like ice cream and the dollar menu. Thus, it mysteriously “breaks”. In some markets, a cone is $0.29 — it’s a money loser that the franchisee doesn’t like and probably doesn’t drive traffic in many loca…
This seems to be an issue with only McD. According to the video other vendors like Wendy's don't have this problem. Remember that McD the company has nothing to loose from failing ice cream machines. That loss is taken by the franchise owners
Re: Investigating why McDonald's ice cream machines are often broken [video]
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There’s no fixing operator error.
It’s not operator error. As the video repeatedly points out, the same machines, by the same vendor, installed in other fast food restaurants (Wendy’s, etc), do not face similar breakdowns. It’s clearly a McDonald’s Corporate sanctioned plan.
Re: Investigating why McDonald's ice cream machines are often broken [video]
#235Tldw: the machine throws obscure error codes (too viscous, failure to heat to proper temps, etc) and can “lock out” the operator, who has to then call an authorized service technician that bills hundreds of dollars for repair. Any attempt to self repair or hire someone else will void the warranty and is disallowed by McDonald’s corporate. The ice cream maker company, Taylor, reports 25% of their revenue is service an…
As someone who worked in stores for years, this isn’t entirely accurate. The machine isn’t just being an asshole to drive up service calls. The machines are filled with a dairy product which makes the “ice cream”. This is boiled nightly to keep the mixture free of bacteria. If the nightly heat cycle fails to complete for one of a dozen reasons the machine locks out. Those unaware of the process usually end up calling…
Also, other restaurants service dairy - also with a much less than 15% failure rate.
There are simple solutions for everything you just said. Taylor makes garbage equipment and is ripping off franchise owners. McDonalds corporate likely owns stock in the company and uses it as a side hustle of revenue from franchise owners.
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Payment type would also matter. If it’s a flat monthly fee then they’re incentivized to avoid service calls. I imagine franchises and Taylor itself would also vastly prefer such a scheme, as it would reduce cost variation.
I understand that companies like Taylor benefit from income streams being predictable. But as per the video it seems that their revenue model was predicated on having as many incidents as possible, each billed separately.
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Sorry, is what automated? The machine doesn't call for a service technician automatically if that's what you meant.
I meant your summary. Did you pull the transcript from the video and run through text summarisation model ?
Re: Investigating why McDonald's ice cream machines are often broken [video]
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Apparently the secret menu gives better error codes / feedback so that users are more informed and know how to avoid problems like "putting too much mix in the tank". Rather than being a means of just faking the parameters.
>Apparently the secret menu gives better error codes / feedback so that users are more informed and know how to avoid problems like "putting too much mix in the tank". Where was this mentioned? The part about the secret menu is around 19:47 (from skimming the transcript), and it only mentions "critical operating parameters".
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The video covers this. All franchises for all companies typically do this overnight.
They all have to be cleaned nightly, but they're not all self-sanitizing. The woman at the wendy's drive-through said they "wash" the machines nightly, which suggests they take it a part and wash it rather than running a self-sanitizing cycle.
Re: Investigating why McDonald's ice cream machines are often broken [video]
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Anecdotally, my local McDonald's never has trouble with their milkshake machine-- it's my local Burger King that frequently does. So a franchisee-specific training problem would make a lot of sense.
My sister worked there as a kid and labor on demand had certain chaotic results. To give an IT analogy if an IT department staffed based on corporate's seemingly random rolls of the dice it could be painful to make sure weekly backups get done weekly, for example. Especially if the only feedback was when the restore process occasionally broke down. Whereas if some dude is always at work every Friday morning at 8am he…
If it's the same person for 5+ years, I can guarantee there's nothing accurate written down (even in regulated industries).
Given the two problems, I've seen more dumpster fires as a result of the latter than the former.