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Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by ghaff » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 6:18 PM UTC

Someone1234 wrote: post #9

In regard to unlock w/Apple Watch: - This is an issue of Apple's own artificial creation. - This doesn't even solve the issue. So this all started because Face Unlock didn't work with masks, that's not Apple's fault. But what is entirely Apple's fault is that they break an option which resolves this only when Face Unlock is enabled: "Require Passcode." When you disable Face Unlock you can set Require Passcode to e.g.…

>MUST enable a passcode on your Apple Watch to use this feature at all

In all fairness, I believe they require you to set a passcode on your watch if you use it for Apple Pay. And, honestly, especially right now--while I don't always use my watch to pay mostly because the Magsafe wallet makes pulling out a card very easy--it's pretty convenient.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by tasogare » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 6:18 PM UTC

dagmx wrote: post #71

Exuma wrote: post #47

"woman with beard" emoji? This is just getting stupid.

Why? Some women, especially in certain cultures, do indeed have beards. It takes nothing away from people who won't use that emoji, but it lets them be represented while giving others another optional emoji to use.

In which cultures does women have beards? Without any example it seems something you just pretend exist. Women in general (ie without special medical conditions) don’t grow enough facial hair to produce a beard in a lifetime.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 6:20 PM UTC

turtlebits wrote: post #69

ASalazarMX wrote: post #39

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I already have an Apple watch, and still resent that their solution for removing the fingerprint scanner is buying a new expensive accessory. Under-display fingerprint readers have existed for years, so it's not an aesthetics issue.

Under display fingerprint scanners suck. I have a Galaxy S20 for work and it rarely works. I also have a A71 5G which is even worse. With winter dry skin (and/or light abrasion from woodworking projects), I can't even unlock the phones at all.

My Moto Z4 works just fine. Unde4 tge screen is by far the best and most comfortable fingerprint scanner position.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by drewg123 » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 6:20 PM UTC

krrrh wrote: post #16

drewg123 wrote: post #4

That's a step in the right direction, but I sorely miss the Android "trusted bluetooth device" that would keep your phone unlocked. I have really poor timing, and upgraded from a Google Pixel 2 to an iPhone with face id (and no touch id)just before the pandemic. Now I have to type my passcode to unlock whenever I'm wearing a mask because I have a Garmin watch and won't consider downgrading to an Apple watch. The Garm…

I know a lot of people love their Garmin watches. Even though I have an Apple Watch I considered also getting a Garmin just for tracking outdoor workouts. Other than battery life, the excellent app WorkoutOutDoors roughly replicates the workout functionality of Garmin watches for $10, but with arguably better maps. A feel like I need to mention it when there‘s an opportunity because the solo developer behind it is do…

The battery life is the key issue for me. My watch goes over a week between charges, and Apple watches seem to generally last a day or less. I went through a series of watches before the Garmin, and they either died quickly (MS Band and LG) or their battery life dropped to Apple Watch levels (Polar M600) and I know from experience that they will die at just the wrong time for me.

The Garmin I have is 3 years old and still going strong.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by willis936 » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 6:20 PM UTC

aikinai wrote: post #27

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #18

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An even better solution would be to just show the "unlock with passcode" button at all times, and not just after Face ID has spent 15 seconds not recognising you because you have a mask on.

They fixed this a few versions ago. Now if it sees a mask, it shows the passcode input immediately.

That was their claim, however my observation is that it just takes longer to fail before offering "swipe up to get the passcode interface". I have to waste many seconds of staring at my phone just to have the privilege of swiping up to spin the passcode interface display slot machine. You know what would work? Just showing the passcode interface as soon as the screen turns on.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by Lammy » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 6:21 PM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #21

smiley1437 wrote: post #14

Feels a bit of a Rube-Goldberg workaround when TouchID exists. Love my TouchID to the point I'm dreading when Apple makes no more TouchID phones

Apple's insistence on only having face ID when competitors have fantastic and very fast in-screen fingerprint readers is just idiotic. I was kind of onboard when they first introduced FaceID, the argument that they don't want the sensor on the back and there is no room on the front was fair enough, but right now the technology has caught up. It's crazy that you can unlock a Samsung with your face OR an in-screen fing…

I wonder if it was really on Apple’s insistence lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI%E2%80%93Apple_encryption_d...

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by ascagnel_ » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 6:22 PM UTC

martin_ wrote: post #45

Hamuko wrote: post #11

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Are people actually on 5G?

Yes - I live in Austin on Verizon and it often shows 5G but is usually slower than my AT&T LTE was in San Francisco -- however -- occasionally I get 5G Ultra Wideband and got 1915mbps down this weekend https://i.imgur.com/BuQF13Y.jpg

The phone will show 5G when you're a carrier w/ a 5G network in the area, even if the phone itself is on a 4G network. The phone will choose to stay on the 4G network if it's trying to stay in a lower-power mode (eg: fetching notifications & emails in the background), and will dynamically jump to 5G on an as-needed basis.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 6:22 PM UTC

patrickmcnamara wrote: post #81

fireattack wrote: post #44

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Still sounds weird to me. I use an Android phone, I can unlock my phone at anytime using either face, fingerprint, or passcode. What exactly is the reason/rationale that it has to fail on facial recognition first before proceeding to use passcode?

I think it's slightly weird UI/UX to show the password prompt if FaceID will just instantly unlock the phone anyway (at least when not wearing a mask).

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Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by ghughes » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 6:22 PM UTC

HugoDaniel wrote: post #42

tosh wrote: post #2

Not mentioned in the press release but this update also brings a new version of Safari (and WebView). Anyone knows if Safari in 14.5 is equivalent to a specific Technology Preview release? https://developer.apple.com/safari/technology-preview/releas...

it would be cool if Safari finally got WebGL 2 enabled by default

Cool for the web, not so cool for the growth of Apple Arcade.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by mrgreenfur » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 6:23 PM UTC

Lots of comments here on the watch unlock, while the new privacy controls are requiring apps to ask for IDFA before it's given (and before you'retracked across apps with any identifiers). The MarTech industry is panicking to adapt and become compliant and there are estimates that it will drop ad targeting by ~75%. I see this as a huge win for privacy, if Apple actually enforces it (They have given no guidance on how this will happen).