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iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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#71
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"woman with beard" emoji? This is just getting stupid.

Why? Some women, especially in certain cultures, do indeed have beards. It takes nothing away from people who won't use that emoji, but it lets them be represented while giving others another optional emoji to use.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

#72
post #48

In regard to unlock w/Apple Watch: - This is an issue of Apple's own artificial creation. - This doesn't even solve the issue. So this all started because Face Unlock didn't work with masks, that's not Apple's fault. But what is entirely Apple's fault is that they break an option which resolves this only when Face Unlock is enabled: "Require Passcode." When you disable Face Unlock you can set Require Passcode to e.g.…

Well now that I’m so used to a level of privacy that locked iPhone provides (notification details are hidden), I just don’t mind having the phone relocked each time. It’s a trade-off that works for me. Also, it wouldn’t surprise me if significant percent of users actually checks their phone at least one in 15 minutes. This would mean that their phones would be at unlocked almost all the time.

- This is about choice. Namely, expanding choice. So if that is your comfort level, keep doing what you're doing.

- When Face Unlock is enabled the iPhone doesn't take 15 minutes to re-lock. That's what is being requested, not what we have. 15 minutes would be much longer than the status quo.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

#73
post #67

In regard to unlock w/Apple Watch: - This is an issue of Apple's own artificial creation. - This doesn't even solve the issue. So this all started because Face Unlock didn't work with masks, that's not Apple's fault. But what is entirely Apple's fault is that they break an option which resolves this only when Face Unlock is enabled: "Require Passcode." When you disable Face Unlock you can set Require Passcode to e.g.…

I just fixed it by turning off FaceID. Apple reached phone perfection with the iPhone 4; they reached access perfection with touchID. Things have gotten worse since then.

Latest iPhone SE and iPad Air are both TouchID only - and wonderful.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

#74
post #27

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They fixed this a few versions ago. Now if it sees a mask, it shows the passcode input immediately.

Still sounds weird to me. I use an Android phone, I can unlock my phone at anytime using either face, fingerprint, or passcode. What exactly is the reason/rationale that it has to fail on facial recognition first before proceeding to use passcode?

> What exactly is the reason/rationale that it has to fail on facial recognition first before proceeding to use passcode?

C O U R A G E

Joke aside, it seems that Face ID was a tremendous technical effort so you could have instant access to your phone. Besides unlocking, there's no other serious application (memojis aside). The fingerprint reader was probably removed just to prop acceptance of Face ID. Also, Face ID is less secure. If you're detained or mugged, just looking at your phone will unlock it before you can react and look away.

IMO, the 3D scanner should be on the other side, enhancing your pictures with 3D depth.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

#75

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It's order of magnitude less than 15 seconds for me. And they have specifically implemented mask detection so if FaceID spots a face with a mask on it immediately shows the passcode keyboard. Personally, I'm getting the passcode prompt in less than 1 second.

Just curious, why not just show numpad/pattern input all the time then?

Because in the standard lock screen you see notifications. iOS switches from the lock screen to the numpad when it detects a facemask, or after a timeout from the unlock gesture (swipe up).

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

#76
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They fixed this a few versions ago. Now if it sees a mask, it shows the passcode input immediately.

Still sounds weird to me. I use an Android phone, I can unlock my phone at anytime using either face, fingerprint, or passcode. What exactly is the reason/rationale that it has to fail on facial recognition first before proceeding to use passcode?

I am guessing the rationale is that Face ID is supposed to be so good that you won't need to use your passcode. In regular use, Face ID unlocks my phone the moment I lift it; showing an "enter passcode" option button would be redundant because it's already unlocked. Obviously this falls apart with masks.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

#77
post #51

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> - This doesn't even solve the issue. Right you are, but for a different reason: Face masks entirely break Apple Pay. If you have an Apple Watch, lucky you, you can use the watch to pay instead. If you don’t? Well, tough luck. Unlock with Watch apparently does not work with Apple Pay. /e: Wasn’t aware of activating Pay using the code. Oops. :D

> Face masks entirely break Apple Pay I might be misunderstanding you, and it’s far from ideal, but you can still use your passcode - I do it all the time.

Ah, indeed. I always thought this was not possible due to silly security requirements. Could’ve sworn this wasn’t possible back on my old iPhone 7.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

#78

Feels a bit of a Rube-Goldberg workaround when TouchID exists. Love my TouchID to the point I'm dreading when Apple makes no more TouchID phones

Apple's insistence on only having face ID when competitors have fantastic and very fast in-screen fingerprint readers is just idiotic. I was kind of onboard when they first introduced FaceID, the argument that they don't want the sensor on the back and there is no room on the front was fair enough, but right now the technology has caught up. It's crazy that you can unlock a Samsung with your face OR an in-screen fing…

> Apple's insistence on only having face ID

For now. I'd wager in the next year or two we will see TouchID in the power button or under the screen. Are there Android phones with this tech already? Yes, you can almost always count on Android phones to have new types of tech before Apple but in my experience Apple's version is much more polished/solid/secure as whole. Android had "Face unlock" for at least a year or two before Apple but it was total crap. I had a coworker who had it and he ended up turning it off because it was so buggy/unreliable. FaceID for me had been pretty rock solid and I'm very happy with it. I'll be happier with a TouchID backup but I'm more than willing to wait for a secure and seamless version and not something rushed to market.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

#79
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> - This doesn't even solve the issue. Right you are, but for a different reason: Face masks entirely break Apple Pay. If you have an Apple Watch, lucky you, you can use the watch to pay instead. If you don’t? Well, tough luck. Unlock with Watch apparently does not work with Apple Pay. /e: Wasn’t aware of activating Pay using the code. Oops. :D

You can't just enter your passcode for Apple Pay?

You definitely can, it says “Pay with Passcode” [1]

1. https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/large/pub...

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