Roku says it may lose YouTube TV app after Google made anti-competitive demands

Post by efdee » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 5:38 PM UTC

sniperjzp wrote: post #48

aklemm wrote: post #4

I'm just about sick of YouTube and YouTube TV not playing well with whatever device I've decided on. First it was YouTube and the Firestick, now it's YouTube TV and Roku. Frankly, how did Google end up with a good TV service? I'd rather not be relying on Google for TV streaming.

First, you can play YouTube without any problem on Firestick, they made the change 2 years ago. Second, you should give the new Chromecast device a try, it's far much better than Roku. Third, Google is asking Roku to support VP9, which is a much superior video coding format, I don't see any issue with this ask.

Post by cma » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 5:39 PM UTC

iforgotpassword wrote: post #39

fra wrote: post #14

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I'm not quite ready to take out the pitchforks... > Roku says Google has threatened to require Roku to use certain chip sets or memory cards that would force Roku to increase the price of its hardware product, which competes directly with Google's Chromecast. This could simply mean Google is requiring chips with hardware VP9 support > Roku alleges Google has asked it to favor YouTube music results from voice commands…

Agree on the second one, but why tf should Google force them to support vp9? If they want to save some money there to stay competitive it's none of Google's business.

Post by raisedbyninjas » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 5:41 PM UTC

015a wrote: post #55

fra wrote: post #14

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I'm not quite ready to take out the pitchforks... > Roku says Google has threatened to require Roku to use certain chip sets or memory cards that would force Roku to increase the price of its hardware product, which competes directly with Google's Chromecast. This could simply mean Google is requiring chips with hardware VP9 support > Roku alleges Google has asked it to favor YouTube music results from voice commands…

> if I have an app open, voice search works within that app This is not how Siri or the Google Assistant works on iOS, Android, or Apple TV.

Post by 8note » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 5:44 PM UTC

fra wrote: post #26

azinman2 wrote: post #22

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Not if I have the notion that search from a button on the remote is universal and I want to be taken directly to that content elsewhere. That’d be like suggesting Siri should only fetch content from the active app. It’s a signal for ranking, but not an absolute one.

That's what they are asking! Take it into account while ranking, not remove all other results: "[...] favor YouTube music results from voice commands made on the Roku remote while the YouTube app is open" Key word is "favor"

Post by galkk » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 5:46 PM UTC

s3r3nity wrote: post #2

> Roku alleges Google has asked it to favor YouTube music results from voice commands made on the Roku remote while the YouTube app is open, even if the user's music preference is set to default to another music app, like Pandora. > Roku says Google has threatened to require Roku to use certain chip sets or memory cards that would force Roku to increase the price of its hardware product, which competes directly with…