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CEOs are hugely expensive – why not automate them?

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Re: CEOs are hugely expensive – why not automate them?

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Why is paying them less not seen as an option? I've seen multiple startups struggle because their CEO makes more than 10 qualified technical staff, where the employees burn out because there's no budget to hire the technical staff the company needs.

What kind of Mickey Mouse start-up is that? CEO cash pay should be low and stock pay high.

Re: CEOs are hugely expensive – why not automate them?

#42
CEOs aren't paid for the day-to-day value they provide to the company. They're paid for the long-term, strategic value the owners think they might provide the company in comparison to other candidates. So if you think CEO Candidate X will make you a 3x return on your investment, but CEO Candidate Y will make you a 5x return, it's almost certainly worth it to pay him/her the extra $200K to get you there, if that's the market demand. You're paying for experience, contact network, etc. in a job like that much more than you are how many widgets they can produce on an assembly line.

So it seems that the idea that a CEO could be automated misses the point of what CEOs do and how they get hired.

Re: CEOs are hugely expensive – why not automate them?

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The reason we don't automate CEOs is liability: the board of directors/shareholders want someone to hold accountable when bad decisions start getting made. If you pay $4000 for a brand new iCEO that lays off your entire staff, you can really only scream at whoever minted the software making that decision, which often comes with limited liability licenses. Remember, corporate structure is about minimizing your own wor…

My new SAAS startup idea; scapegoat as a service. For a few million dollars you can hire me, put all the blame on me, I say "I take full responsibility" and resign my position.

I'd actually like to invest.

Re: CEOs are hugely expensive – why not automate them?

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post #10

Why is paying them less not seen as an option? I've seen multiple startups struggle because their CEO makes more than 10 qualified technical staff, where the employees burn out because there's no budget to hire the technical staff the company needs.

> Why is paying them less not seen as an option?

I don't understand - do you think companies are voluntarily paying them money that they don't have to?

If you won't pay them what they want they'll go elsewhere to someone that will.

Just like you would, I presume.

Re: CEOs are hugely expensive – why not automate them?

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post #10

Why is paying them less not seen as an option? I've seen multiple startups struggle because their CEO makes more than 10 qualified technical staff, where the employees burn out because there's no budget to hire the technical staff the company needs.

Presumably because the market dictates their salary, not a vague notion of what they should be paid. Or, to reframe the question: why don't people hire cheaper CEOs?

> Presumably because the market dictates their salary

Ahh yes, when the "market" is primarily made up of other CEOs (i.e. who sit on corporate boards), whose primary vested interested is to ensure CEO salaries stay astronomically high.

Re: CEOs are hugely expensive – why not automate them?

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post #10

Why is paying them less not seen as an option? I've seen multiple startups struggle because their CEO makes more than 10 qualified technical staff, where the employees burn out because there's no budget to hire the technical staff the company needs.

> I've seen multiple startups struggle because their CEO makes more than 10 qualified technical staff,

The fully loaded cost of a qualified developer begins in the six figures. A CEO earning 10x that would be earning 7 figures.

I've never seen an actual startup with a CEO earning 7 figure cash compensation. I don't think any reasonable investors or even board members would allow that.

Startup CEOs are largely compensated in equity, with their cash compensation being significant ($100-200K if company has revenue) but not overwhelming. They're often not the highest paid person in the company in terms of cash + bonus.

Re: CEOs are hugely expensive – why not automate them?

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post #10

Why is paying them less not seen as an option? I've seen multiple startups struggle because their CEO makes more than 10 qualified technical staff, where the employees burn out because there's no budget to hire the technical staff the company needs.

Presumably because the market dictates their salary, not a vague notion of what they should be paid. Or, to reframe the question: why don't people hire cheaper CEOs?

The simple answer is that people don't hire cheaper CEOs because the people who hire CEOs are the boards of companies and the boards of companies are mainly staffed by CEOs of other companies who unsurprisingly are incentivized to advocate for higher CEO pay.

Re: CEOs are hugely expensive – why not automate them?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As if no one has ever figured out how to exploit the CEO...

Ha!! My miniskirt says true ;)

The high level paid positions dont seem to be filled with women in miniskirts. They are more likely to be filled by men according to pretty much all studies I have seen.

If anyone is exploiting CEOs for personal benefit, miniskirts are not that.

Re: CEOs are hugely expensive – why not automate them?

#50

As a counterpoint to whether the CEO role can be outsourced or automated (posted by the former CEO of reddit): https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/210to8/e...

I like his post downstream on 3 factors of CEO pay:

https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/210to8/e...

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