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Farming robot kills 100k weeds per hour with lasers

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Re: Farming robot kills 100k weeds per hour with lasers

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"I want to see details on power source and energy usage. That's where I'm a bit skeptical." Meh. Worse case you could even have a wire.

You’d be dragging that wire over your rows of crops, potentially damaging them.

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Re: Farming robot kills 100k weeds per hour with lasers

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It's all fun and games until the selection pressure evolves weeds that say "human" on their leaves to fool the AI.

Farming goes from broad selection against pests with chemicals to introducing a massive selection pressure towards biological mimicry and adversarial image attacks.

And eventually that mimicry just creates us new secondary crops like oats: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vavilovian_mimicry

Re: Farming robot kills 100k weeds per hour with lasers

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No, the price increase will be much smaller than the wage increase because the wage increase only goes to the fraction of the population that does the work while the price increase applies to the entire population.

If you raise the base cost of production in a low margin case like agriculture, then the price of the good must increase or they would be running at a loss.

Yes, but the amounts are tiny. Would you pay an extra 10 cents a pound for your produce? That amount would be life changing for farmers.

But the market will always find the place where the work is unbearable and stop just shy of that.

Re: Farming robot kills 100k weeds per hour with lasers

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I am not easy about those technologies. What stops them to retrain it so that it will blind humans who have bad comment history on Facebook?

I mean, Michael Reeves on YouTube built 50% of what you're talking about with two servos and a pizza box. Just strap the whole thing on a Spot from Boston Dynamic (which, concerningly enough, Michael also has now) and you're done.

Re: Farming robot kills 100k weeds per hour with lasers

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"It's harder to find people to do that work every single year" Translation: The wages we pay are crap and we're not going to pay them more.

Paying people to walk through fields picking weeds doesn't sound scalable or sustainable to me.

It was for the last 11 000 years. With variabilities, but based on demographic only it was pretty scalable and sustainable.

Re: Farming robot kills 100k weeds per hour with lasers

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Just buy or rent a goat. Those things love poison ivy.

Well now you've done it. Why use lasers when we can genetically engineer goats to hate the taste of corn/sorghum/wheat and love the taste of weeds?

That's basically how tea cultivation has historically worked. If you let a goat loose on a tea field it will eat literally everything but the tea plants.

Re: Farming robot kills 100k weeds per hour with lasers

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Given where ML and CV are today, I'd bet on open source models trained on weeds within 3-5 years. This company can scale, but their unit price is going to plummet. Also, it sounds like they're using cameras, where it's concievable that other future sensors could be more efficient. An iteration of this with higher resolution cameras and small flying drones seems like an intuitive next step. This is a super interesting…

I wonder at what point it becomes economically feasible to breed crops that are more distinguishable from weeds? After all, this is what we did with chemical weedkillers.

I wondered about the corollary - at what point does selective pressure create a weed that's indistinguishable from a crop?

Re: Farming robot kills 100k weeds per hour with lasers

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This most likely wouldn't be safe for poison ivy removal. Burning poison ivy creates a toxic cloud. As much as poison ivy isn't fun, poison ivy in your throat and lungs is even less fun.

Presumably the laser wouldn't be setting the whole plant up in smoke. Couldn't it target the base and let it fall?

My understanding of poison ivy is that no part of the plant is nontoxic. Burning just the base would minimize the toxic cloud, but not eliminate it.
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