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We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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The commercial opinion bit is incredibly annoying. Ask for an opinion and you’ll get 5 pages of custom built “review” sites that offer nothing useful besides copious ads and paid click-through to Amazon. Even when Google knows where I go with my searches, they still refuse to show those sites for anything that might have commercial interest. So much for customized search. I get tired of being the product. Can we get…

I literally append "site:reddit.com" like in the article whenever I'm looking for reviews and comparisons. Google is nearly useless for finding content among the sea of crap and autogenerated near-crap (like Slant). I might click on the links going to sites that I half-remember by name, but for open-ended searches it's a lost war.

> I literally append "site:reddit.com"

Stop saying that! The more people repeat that on HN, the more we risk advertisers realizing it and doing reddit-targeted SEO and reddit will be useless too!

(I'm only half joking)

Also, it's funny, I was just reading the thread about malaria eradication and DDT-resistant mosquitoes; the problem of SEO is eerily similar (any countermeasure is eventually defeated by evolution).

Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. Money is the one unpatchable zero-day for every platform and service on earth.

There is a patch thanks to contributor Marx but everyone keeps pressing "remind me later".

Does bribing not exist in that system?

Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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post #5

This seems it will be applied to self driving technology in a huge way. All of these companies doing advanced AI vision detection, classification etc... they’re really hard problems. But the whole challenge will eventually become nullified when every single road sign, landmark, and the road itself are tagged internally with metadata. Instead of trying to decipher how does this PNG of a speed limit sign translate into…

> the number metadata would be encoded in the sign. Oh yea that's not going to backfire at all is it? Lemme just work out how to frig it to state the max speed limit is zero and create an automated car pile-up.

It's been done before.

https://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/coyote-pai...

Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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I wonder if it would be cheaper for all these companies to go and pay for a sticker/stamp of some kind put on all the signs in a city. Figure out a standard and put them everywhere. This would give them time to get the AI vision detection algorithms figured out.

what's the point of putting it on the signs when you can create virtual sign map that every city/road maintenance HAS to update?

Personally, I'd be more comfortable by making the signs themselves easier for a machine to read rather than to build/maintain what is basically a form of dead reckoning.

Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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The following quotes are fairly interesting and ironic: > Larry Page and Sergey Brin were originally pretty negative about search engines that sold ads. Appendix A in their original paper says: >> "we expect that advertising-funded search engines will be inherently biased towards the advertisers and away from the needs of the consumers" > and that >> "we believe the issue of advertising causes enough mixed incentives…

Haha. I remember an interview of Eric Schmidt by Stephen Colbert. Stephen asks a great question in the interview.

Stephen : So the goal of Google is "not be evil"

Eric : Yes. Not be evil.

Stephen : How low would the stock price have to go for your to start being evil? (or a similar question to that effect)

Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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Thanks to whoever brought up that 'wiby' search engine, I'd never heard of it.

The shittiness of google search has made me think about the value of a curated search engine, although everyone probably needs their own version. Maybe 'engines'. It would be cool to have one that looked exclusively at bonafide discussion forums generally, another could look at the library contained in libgen or sci-hub.

Maybe somebody has done a search that works the opposite way, something that makes use of google but blocks all the cruft.

No doubt it couldn't be too successful since the gaming would begin immediately.

Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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post #29

An annoying example which has gotten worse recently is recipes. I generally trawl through 5k words of someone's life story and product promotions to get to the piece of information I need, and they often rewrite the recipe 5 different times in different levels of detail -- is this because to make the first page rank on Google you need to pad out the SEO? I too always find myself doing site:reddit.com.

I only go to Allrecipes now for exactly this reason. It’s funny, people used to mock that site for the stupid reviews, but what matters can quickly change...

Allrecipes is a worthless time sync. The vast majority of recipes on that site are written by amateurs and just not good. It's not worth sifting through recipes on there to find a good one because the odds are so low.

Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. Money is the one unpatchable zero-day for every platform and service on earth.

There is a patch thanks to contributor Marx but everyone keeps pressing "remind me later".

Working example needed.

Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. Money is the one unpatchable zero-day for every platform and service on earth.

There is a patch thanks to contributor Marx but everyone keeps pressing "remind me later".

Probbably due to the memory of the deaths of millions of people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_...

You get bit by a viper in the bathroom and your going to avoid that bathroom for a while.

Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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post #24

> When your elected government snoops on you, they famously prefer the metadata https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/30/nsa-americans-... of who you emailed, phoned or chatted to the content of the messages themselves. It seems to be much more tractable to flag people of interest to the security services based on who their friends are and what websites they visit than to do clever AI on the messages they send.…

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