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We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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Post by adelrune »

ZiiS wrote: post #7
balia wrote: post #5

This seems it will be applied to self driving technology in a huge way. All of these companies doing advanced AI vision detection, classification etc... they’re really hard problems. But the whole challenge will eventually become nullified when every single road sign, landmark, and the road itself are tagged internally with metadata. Instead of trying to decipher how does this PNG of a speed limit sign translate into…

The difficulty is getting the kid playing in the road to correctly encode their metadata; not so much the posted signs.

You see, that's what the chips in the vaccines are for /s

Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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Post by Borrible »

Since Dartmouth AI looks like a story of naive visions, exaggerated promises, massive disappointment, recurrent divisionary tactics, rebranding and snak oil sale. Until finally a light on the horizon became visible and academically camouflaged wishful thinking could be materialized into usable products. A groping in the dark, nothing more. There are probably good reasons why the blind watchmaker needed billions of years and it is not clear wether the seeing watchmaker Humanity is not too short-sighted. At least one can hope, whatever he will give the name strong artificial intelligence, and he likes to give his imagined or real successes grand names, he will find faster.

Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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Post by latch »

This (1) thread from François Chollet describes 'Artificial Intelligence' very well in my opinion. From this point of view, it's obvious why you need to fallback to other data/metadata.

Further, to the linked tweets and the OP, I don't think that there's a direct line from where we are to where we want to be. As an analogy, no advancement in chemical rockets is going to get us to Alpha Centauri.

1 - https://twitter.com/fchollet/status/1214392496375025664

Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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Post by darkerside »

fouc wrote: post #2

> There are woolly intimations that self driving cars will read roadsigns to work out what the speed limit is for any stretch of road but the truth seems to be that they use the current GPS co-ordinates to access manually entered data on speedlimits. I actually didn't know Tesla cars relied on GPS + map data w/ speed limits until recently. What a disappointment, apparently it causes all sorts of issues with sudden br…

Maybe it uses both? My Honda can tell me the speed limit, and I'm sure it's not using the internet to do it.

Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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Post by [deleted] »

ZiiS wrote: post #7
balia wrote: post #5

This seems it will be applied to self driving technology in a huge way. All of these companies doing advanced AI vision detection, classification etc... they’re really hard problems. But the whole challenge will eventually become nullified when every single road sign, landmark, and the road itself are tagged internally with metadata. Instead of trying to decipher how does this PNG of a speed limit sign translate into…

The difficulty is getting the kid playing in the road to correctly encode their metadata; not so much the posted signs.

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Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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Post by Quarrelsome »

balia wrote: post #5

This seems it will be applied to self driving technology in a huge way. All of these companies doing advanced AI vision detection, classification etc... they’re really hard problems. But the whole challenge will eventually become nullified when every single road sign, landmark, and the road itself are tagged internally with metadata. Instead of trying to decipher how does this PNG of a speed limit sign translate into…

> the number metadata would be encoded in the sign.

Oh yea that's not going to backfire at all is it? Lemme just work out how to frig it to state the max speed limit is zero and create an automated car pile-up.

Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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Post by klmadfejno »

fouc wrote: post #2

> There are woolly intimations that self driving cars will read roadsigns to work out what the speed limit is for any stretch of road but the truth seems to be that they use the current GPS co-ordinates to access manually entered data on speedlimits. I actually didn't know Tesla cars relied on GPS + map data w/ speed limits until recently. What a disappointment, apparently it causes all sorts of issues with sudden br…

I think the risk of a car missing a speed sign, or misinterpreting one, or reading something that looks like a speed limit sign but isn't, is a much bigger threat.

Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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Post by aNoob7000 »

balia wrote: post #5

This seems it will be applied to self driving technology in a huge way. All of these companies doing advanced AI vision detection, classification etc... they’re really hard problems. But the whole challenge will eventually become nullified when every single road sign, landmark, and the road itself are tagged internally with metadata. Instead of trying to decipher how does this PNG of a speed limit sign translate into…

I wonder if it would be cheaper for all these companies to go and pay for a sticker/stamp of some kind put on all the signs in a city. Figure out a standard and put them everywhere.

This would give them time to get the AI vision detection algorithms figured out.

Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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Post by ryanianian »

Borrible wrote: post #12

Since Dartmouth AI looks like a story of naive visions, exaggerated promises, massive disappointment, recurrent divisionary tactics, rebranding and snak oil sale. Until finally a light on the horizon became visible and academically camouflaged wishful thinking could be materialized into usable products. A groping in the dark, nothing more. There are probably good reasons why the blind watchmaker needed billions of ye…

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