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Investigating why McDonald's ice cream machines are often broken [video]

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Re: Investigating why McDonald's ice cream machines are often broken [video]

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You can’t really call it ice cream (too much edible plastic). On the menu it’s named ‘cone’, ‘shake’, and ‘sundae’.

Ice cream is a protected term. It must contain 10%+ milkfat (among other things). Which why sometimes you see avoidance of the term.

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/cfr...

And no, there is no plastic in McDonald's ice cream.

Re: Investigating why McDonald's ice cream machines are often broken [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why don't they have a service contract so the cost of so many errors burns this 'Taylor' company?

There’s no fixing operator error.

It’s not operator error. As the video repeatedly points out, the same machines, by the same vendor, installed in other fast food restaurants (Wendy’s, etc), do not face similar breakdowns.

It’s clearly a McDonald’s Corporate sanctioned plan.

Re: Investigating why McDonald's ice cream machines are often broken [video]

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post #14
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why don't they have a service contract so the cost of so many errors burns this 'Taylor' company?

There’s no fixing operator error.

I'm sure that if McDonald's paid Taylor a bonus for 99.99% uptime then at least half of 'operator errors' would disappear.

Re: Investigating why McDonald's ice cream machines are often broken [video]

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Tldw: the machine throws obscure error codes (too viscous, failure to heat to proper temps, etc) and can “lock out” the operator, who has to then call an authorized service technician that bills hundreds of dollars for repair. Any attempt to self repair or hire someone else will void the warranty and is disallowed by McDonald’s corporate. The ice cream maker company, Taylor, reports 25% of their revenue is service an…

> Any attempt to self repair or hire someone else will void the warranty and is disallowed by McDonald’s corporate. And from McDonalds point of view this makes sense and is ethical. The minute you start letting the franchise people make these repairs, they will inevitably cut corners (and get away with it 99% of the time). However, at McDonalds’ scale that would likely result in dozens of people dying at a minimum an…

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Re: Investigating why McDonald's ice cream machines are often broken [video]

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Tldw: the machine throws obscure error codes (too viscous, failure to heat to proper temps, etc) and can “lock out” the operator, who has to then call an authorized service technician that bills hundreds of dollars for repair. Any attempt to self repair or hire someone else will void the warranty and is disallowed by McDonald’s corporate. The ice cream maker company, Taylor, reports 25% of their revenue is service an…

Thank you for saving me half an hour.

It's actually much more interesting than this person describes.

It turns out this company makes machines for lots of other fast food chains but McDonald's is the only one with this problem, and it seems to be intentional to allow Taylor to milk mcds franchisees.

It gets stranger when you realize that the majority of the problems seem to stem from the manufacturer purposely designing their machines to prevent their customers from operating them properly to inflate the need for maintenance .. even going so far as to silence an invention that allowed the machine to display human readable error messages to allow the operator to know things like if the hopper was too full to run the cleaning cycle.

Re: Investigating why McDonald's ice cream machines are often broken [video]

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post #10
post #3

Tldw: the machine throws obscure error codes (too viscous, failure to heat to proper temps, etc) and can “lock out” the operator, who has to then call an authorized service technician that bills hundreds of dollars for repair. Any attempt to self repair or hire someone else will void the warranty and is disallowed by McDonald’s corporate. The ice cream maker company, Taylor, reports 25% of their revenue is service an…

Why don't they have a service contract so the cost of so many errors burns this 'Taylor' company?

The franchise model has the costs borne by franchise operators, but the contracts are signed by corporate.

It's possible that someone at corporate is getting kickbacks.

Re: Investigating why McDonald's ice cream machines are often broken [video]

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Tldw: the machine throws obscure error codes (too viscous, failure to heat to proper temps, etc) and can “lock out” the operator, who has to then call an authorized service technician that bills hundreds of dollars for repair. Any attempt to self repair or hire someone else will void the warranty and is disallowed by McDonald’s corporate. The ice cream maker company, Taylor, reports 25% of their revenue is service an…

It seems that even a megacorp like McDonald needs the right to repair...

On second thought, not exactly the megacorp, but the franchise owners.

Re: Investigating why McDonald's ice cream machines are often broken [video]

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Tldw: the machine throws obscure error codes (too viscous, failure to heat to proper temps, etc) and can “lock out” the operator, who has to then call an authorized service technician that bills hundreds of dollars for repair. Any attempt to self repair or hire someone else will void the warranty and is disallowed by McDonald’s corporate. The ice cream maker company, Taylor, reports 25% of their revenue is service an…

Still worth watching though. The last part (@ 23 mins) looks at how an enterprising 3rd party developer decided to help franchise owners solve the problem and got shut down by head-office.

Re: Investigating why McDonald's ice cream machines are often broken [video]

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Tldw: the machine throws obscure error codes (too viscous, failure to heat to proper temps, etc) and can “lock out” the operator, who has to then call an authorized service technician that bills hundreds of dollars for repair. Any attempt to self repair or hire someone else will void the warranty and is disallowed by McDonald’s corporate. The ice cream maker company, Taylor, reports 25% of their revenue is service an…

It seems that even a megacorp like McDonald needs the right to repair... On second thought, not exactly the megacorp, but the franchise owners.

McDonald's the corp isn't hurt by this, individual franchise owners bear the cost. In particular, mcdonald's the corp mandates the particular icecream machine that is used, rather than allowing the franchise owner to pick from several machines. The video argues that this is done because mcdonald's is interested in benefiting the company that makes and services the ice cream machines.

Re: Investigating why McDonald's ice cream machines are often broken [video]

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post #3

Tldw: the machine throws obscure error codes (too viscous, failure to heat to proper temps, etc) and can “lock out” the operator, who has to then call an authorized service technician that bills hundreds of dollars for repair. Any attempt to self repair or hire someone else will void the warranty and is disallowed by McDonald’s corporate. The ice cream maker company, Taylor, reports 25% of their revenue is service an…

Still worth watching though. The last part (@ 23 mins) looks at how an enterprising 3rd party developer decided to help franchise owners solve the problem and got shut down by head-office.

Didn't make it that far. Time is too precious to waste on someone that is purposely wasting it.
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