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Was this talk recorded?

It was. Well, his Defcon version is an identical talk given the same week. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pp72gUYx00

Thanks for the link; would you like to submit that as a separate HN submission as well, including [video] in the title? (I think that'd be within the site guidelines[1])

Might post it myself if you'd prefer not to; I figured it might make sense for you to claim the credit/karma.

[1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Could we respect the wish of those close to the deceased to keep speculation as to the cause of death private?

If they don't want speculation, they need to give facts. Otherwise all we have is wondering, which naturally leads to speculation. I don't mind them not giving facts. I just think it's silly to not give facts and then tell people not to speculate.

They don’t need to do anything. People aren’t morally entitled to demand information from a grieving family just because it would sate their curiosity.

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It feels wrong to upvote a story of somebody dying. How about such stories are pinned and don't have to be voted on to stay on the front page, at least for a couple of days?

I just wanted to say I agree with you and I don’t know why you were downvoted. This seems to me a well-intentioned and quite reasonable request.

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Could we respect the wish of those close to the deceased to keep speculation as to the cause of death private?

If they don't want speculation, they need to give facts. Otherwise all we have is wondering, which naturally leads to speculation. I don't mind them not giving facts. I just think it's silly to not give facts and then tell people not to speculate.

> they need to give facts.

How do you know they have facts? It takes some time for a coroner / medical examiner to produce a report. The death certificate will have minimal information.

And your claim that speculation is reduced by releasing details is incorrect. Imagine a person dies a self-inflicted death -- there will then be speculation about whether or not this is suicide or misadventure, and what the causes were.

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I had dinner with Dan once, he ”social engineered” me and claimed he forgot to bring money. I knew what he was doing, but also knew that if picking up the tab was the price i had to pay for getting to hang out with him, I got the better end of the Deal. Rest In Peace

Given the sheer number of things I've seen Dan space out, I strongly suspect you're dead wrong about this one. I don't know how many years ago this was, but he's been a man of independent means for longer ago than whenever this happened. I think you intended this as a sharing of a cool moment you had with the recently deceased, but you thoroughly missed the mark.

I agree, this was clearly voiced very respectfully and with good intentions, but I’m astonished the commenter couldn’t see what a classless thing this is to imply – especially about someone who just died. I was pretty dumbfounded reading this.

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The tweet specifically asks us not to speculate and the parent article makes mention that the conditions of his death have not been made public. I’m not sure how others feel, personally I am conflicted: respect the death of an icon and not pry (even if others are speaking on his behalf) or satisfy my curiosity. I’m going to go with the former, for now.

There's plenty of time for one then the other. I don't think the curiosity to know is just for curiosity alone. I think it serves a purpose for everyone to bear witness to the kinds of things that take us.

Unless he was killed by a bear and that bear is still on the loose, or something like that, then I think we can probably wait a few days for his family to be informed.

There are a lot of people here making very high-minded comments about how it’s deeply important to the sum total of human knowledge that we learn the cause of his death so that we can reflect on our mortality, and so on and so forth. I can’t help but feel those comments are a bit insincere. It’s morbid curiosity, let’s be honest, and it’s not enough to justify speculating when his family and friends are probably reading these comments and possibly haven’t found out.

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Does anyone have a copy of the sources for Paketto Keiretsu? It seems to have disappeared from his website(s) some years ago and I kept meaning to ask him for a copy. It was an early inspiration for a lot of my L3-in-userspace work.

https://rya.nc/files/paketto-2.00pre5.tar.gz I'm not sure whether I got it directly from him or if I had a saved copy, but that's the most recent version.

This version is also available from archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20070702232113/https://www.doxpa...

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My very first memory of the in-person security world is from watching Dan talk outside of the Alexis Park back in 2004. I was drinking bourbon from a plastic water cup. He was doing a live demo showing streaming audio proxied by DNS servers. I will never forget the sense of wonder I felt listening to that talk.
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