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Mars has right ingredients for present-day microbial life: study

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Re: Mars has right ingredients for present-day microbial life: study

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What happens when we'd put some microbes there now?

I've been curious about this recently actually. What are the downsides of "seeding" a plant with life to study how it evolves?

Imagine if an alien lifeform had terraformed earth this way. We would not have existed.

(There is a hypothesis that life may have been introduced this way to earth, known as the Panspermia Hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia)

Re: Mars has right ingredients for present-day microbial life: study

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For almost half a century, scientists have been speculating about sub-surface life on mars. Why with existing technological progress can we not just get a yes or no answer about this.

Because determining a yes or no answer requires running tests and examinations of Martian subsurface soil samples on Earth.

Part of Perseverance's mission is to take those soil samples and deposit them to be picked up and brought back to Earth on another later mission.

https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/spacecraft/rover/sample-handl...

Re: Mars has right ingredients for present-day microbial life: study

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For almost half a century, scientists have been speculating about sub-surface life on mars. Why with existing technological progress can we not just get a yes or no answer about this.

Several experiments have already been carried out, but none have been able to fully prove or refute the existence of life on mars. There is still room for more evidence and precision, but most likely there is no life there.

Re: Mars has right ingredients for present-day microbial life: study

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

things that go to mars tend to stay there

That's changing very soon. Perseverance's mission includes collecting and storing samples for a return mission. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_sample-return_mission

And also things that have gone to Mars in the past have blasted off chunks of Mars into Earth.

Re: Mars has right ingredients for present-day microbial life: study

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I don't understand the excitement for finding life on Mars. I personally really, really hope we do not find life on Mars. If we find even the most basic microbial life, NASA is going to shut down all future exploration in the interest of Martian planetary protection. China and Russia probably won't, but the US will cripple itself (again) out of caution. On a more existential level, finding life elsewhere in the solar…

I'm always on side of knowing than not knowing. Finding truly alien life would change society forever, maybe we would get more humble. As Carl Sagan put on Pale Blue Dot.

Re: Mars has right ingredients for present-day microbial life: study

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post #19

is anybody going to talk about the numerous and very obvious artificial structures on Mars and Moon? Just shut up and chalk it up to conspiracy right like a good American.

I'm a PhD candidate studying Mars, happy to debunk any structures you can supply.

PHD won't save you here. I am not talking about Face on Mars either

Literally pyramids and megastructures with uniform and clear patterns of engineered structures. There's really nothing you can say here to convince me otherwise. There's zero chance of a large pyramid structure with accurate math proportions and geometric consistencies occuring by "chance"

I don't know about other stuff you are speaking of but there's almost no explanation you can give to convice the 47% of the Americans that don't believe you.

edit: also there's no need for personal ad hominem attacks in your other reply. it's unprofessional. we are not even limiting this to Mars, I mentioned the Moon as well.

Re: Mars has right ingredients for present-day microbial life: study

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post #19

is anybody going to talk about the numerous and very obvious artificial structures on Mars and Moon? Just shut up and chalk it up to conspiracy right like a good American.

The only obvious examples of either are the ones humans put there — the probes, the rovers, the Apollo Lunar Modules and associated material.

so you mean we've figured out how to build large structures outside planet earth without the public knowing?

Re: Mars has right ingredients for present-day microbial life: study

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For almost half a century, scientists have been speculating about sub-surface life on mars. Why with existing technological progress can we not just get a yes or no answer about this.

I’ll answer your question with a question. Would space exploration get more or less funding if we settled a fundamental question about the existence of life outside earth?

Probably more.

Re: Mars has right ingredients for present-day microbial life: study

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The great filter is that tech is to easy, but self-awareness and self-discipline is hard. So life presses onwards, demanding exponential energy density from tech, to not be forced to limit itself and self-discipline itself. Thus ever more potent tools are handed out to avoid confrontation with the "overcome" animal nature - and once that equation reaches the end of the line (easy energy and resources exhausted), a ne…

There could be civilizations out there that never developed aggression.

If they never developed aggression then they are not eating each other. Animals eat other animals because of the high concentration of nutrients in living things. Eating highly nutritious things allows an organism to develop both physically and mentally.

So they either have an abundant source of nutrients that has not been depleted for their entire evolution, or they are not highly developed, or they have developed aggression.

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