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Hmm, so I have no child and no experience huh? What happened to baby proofing houses? Keeping items they shouldn’t eat out of reach? As a parent it is your job to keep that child safe until they can do the same, and leaving dangerous items around is failing that one task. You don’t leave things around that hurts your child, be it guns or batteries.

When the item they shouldn't eat is in the “safe for children” toy you got sold, how're you meant to keep it out of reach? As soon as a child notices that you can pull the velcro and expose the battery compartment, nothing short of screws is going to stop them putting the batteries in their mouth, and it will only leave their mouth (heavily chewn) if it's too hard to swallow. Source: me, aged nine. (I didn't have the…

Why was the remote in reach? Why did your parents not realize the batteries were easy to remove and let you have it anyways? You people are proving my “bad parents” theory.

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Hmm, so I have no child and no experience huh? What happened to baby proofing houses? Keeping items they shouldn’t eat out of reach? As a parent it is your job to keep that child safe until they can do the same, and leaving dangerous items around is failing that one task. You don’t leave things around that hurts your child, be it guns or batteries.

You clearly don't have children, so stop pretending that being a parent is as easy as writing some sentences describing what needs to be done. It's like someone pretending to be a doctor explaining how easy it is to work in medicine to a group of actual trained professionals, it looks silly. If you were a parent you would know that time is not available to you, that you cant sit and stare at the kids from morning to…

> If you were a parent you would know that time is not available to you, that you cant sit and stare at the kids from morning to night.

So there are no such things as play pens in which you can create a secure and safe area while you are distracted with life?

And my point remains, if you need a warning that eating batteries is dangerous, perhaps wait a few years. The fact that this keeps reoccurring means people aren’t using their brain.

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CR2032 is 2cm wide so you're probably referring to smaller batteries as these cannot be swallowed by a child.

That is simply not true. Children can easily ingest objects 2cm in diameter, and batteries that size can be especially dangerous because of how they lodge in the esophagus. Citing Eck, Langham says, "Clinical outcomes can be determined by assessing the diameter of the button battery, as 90% of all major or fatal outcomes are associated with lithium batteries of 20 to 25 mm in diameter" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pm…

Interesting, I did not know that. What I also find interesting is that those that did swallow a battery between 20 - 25mm, there was no damage in more than 50% of the cases. https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/125/6/1168/ta...

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What is a "ski lift"? I don't remember the old times before Covid.

Luckily we live in a city with ski slopes near us, this particular one is in the same health authority we live in, so even in lockdown it's been ok to come ski. It's honestly the thing that has kept us sane, in retrospect I would have payed 10x or more for the family ski pass...

Nice! I live down the street from a tennis club, and this really helped last summer. Unfortunately it was only open for a week this summer before the current increased measures. Hope it will re-open in few weeks. It's so important to get out and be able to have a physical outlet.

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Nice way to shame someone brave enough to admit they were lacking in knowledge and announcing action to improve their live.

Notice how you’re not explaining why I look ridiculous? Please, tell me how an infant is smarter than you

I’m sorry...what are you on about? If your goal is to have heated discussions with strangers on the net, there are better platforms out there for that than HN. Your comment style makes you look really insecure. Be aware of that.

The fact is, kids face many dangers and as a parent you cannot be aware of all of them. So if you’re introduced to a new danger and your reaction is “I didn’t know this, but now that I do I’m immediately making changes to prevent impact of this danger on my kid” that deserves praise. Not cheeky low effort guilt tripping.

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This tag has an U1 chip using Ultra Wide Band (UWB) which means that iPhones 11 and above also equipped with those chips will be able to locate those tags from 80m away with a +/-30cm accuracy. U1 UWB uses short pulses at 6.24GHz and 8.2GHz and positioning is done by combining time of flight (ToF) and angle of arrival (AoA).

I wonder if Apple will use this product as a Guinea Pig to test the possibility of building a device-to-device network over UWB. From what I've read (I'm not technical) this was tried sometime ago by a consortium but they gave up over the difficulties of sending communications over UWB. Maybe Apple will manage a breaktrough by pouring money and brains over it like it did with M1?

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The article isn't entirely clear, but suggests that it will use the network of iOS devices around it and that the AirTag will start beeping as well. Seems like it should be able to detect that it's always traveling together with a single Android phone's WiFi signal, for example.

I wonder how hard would it be to disable beeping. There is probably a speaker that can be drilled through.

The plastik part seems to be the resonator replacing it with a soft material that absorbs sound would be the easiest step.

However it might be better to disconect the speaker which should save lots of energy the peeper would consume otherwise.

I don't think apple checks for the speeker to be connected if the speaker breaks for example it would make the tag unusable resulting in more warrenty complains.

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I was thinking the same thing. Can AirTag help me find my car if I forgot where I parked?

Your iPhone can do that on it's own if you connect it to a bluetooth or CarPlay headset when you're in the car... It will remember where you are when you disconnect from it and tag it on the map for you. [1] https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/find-your-parked-car-...

It'd be nice if I could use the Find My app for that rather than needing to open the Maps app (since I use other maps apps).

But good tip, thanks.

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Instead now we get millions of CR2032 batteries thrown into the garbage each day :/ Anything with non-chargeable batteries is a no go from sustainability perspective

That’s not true, it depends on the types of materials, how it is disposed, and what the alternatives are. Recall that everything is made out of rearranged earth atoms. So long as you put them back properly, it can be sustainable.

Yeah but is that practically the case? Most people just chuck things in the trash. Most are too busy to even think about disposing of their waste properly.. This is the reality of our society

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When the item they shouldn't eat is in the “safe for children” toy you got sold, how're you meant to keep it out of reach? As soon as a child notices that you can pull the velcro and expose the battery compartment, nothing short of screws is going to stop them putting the batteries in their mouth, and it will only leave their mouth (heavily chewn) if it's too hard to swallow. Source: me, aged nine. (I didn't have the…

Why was the remote in reach? Why did your parents not realize the batteries were easy to remove and let you have it anyways? You people are proving my “bad parents” theory.

‘Bad parent’ theory. Please, tell a mum who’s child died after being burnt through the inside because they left a remote on a table that she is a bad parent.

They don’t realise the danger because there are no warnings, they assume a device is safe as is. Have you not figured that out yet?

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