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Re: Earth Restored – 50 restored images of earth released

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Post by Kye » Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 3:11 PM UTC

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #74

avereveard wrote: post #47

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such a nihilistic view has little ground in reality > been outside of low earth orbit we stopped pushing that frontier because we've been there and found it dull and empty, as a matter of fact, we decided zero g experiment were more important than playing with regolith, and build a freaking human habitat in the void to support that endeavor. beside, we've got regolith here on earth now, we can experiment on it in the…

The primary purpose of ISS is to be a jobs program, not scientific experimentation. The Russians are involved specifically to keep their engineers from going to work for hostile states.

They're learning all kinds of things by seeing how plants grow in microgravity and more recently how 3D printers work in the same. It didn't need to cost a trillion dollars for that, but now that it's there, we might just get over a trillion dollars worth of science out of it.

Re: Earth Restored – 50 restored images of earth released

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Post by alexjudson » Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 3:11 PM UTC

loudlambda wrote: post #81

How does this picture make any sense? Europe, Asia, Both America's, and Australia all fit on the other half? https://static1.squarespace.com/static/562652dbe4b05bbfdc596...

Keep in mind that you are not seeing a complete "half" of the earth in this picture. As your distance increases, the effective horizon encompasses more of the surface. Only at infinite distance would you see exactly half of a sphere (mathematically speaking).

Try taking a picture of your globe closer and closer to the surface and watch as less of the surface is visible in each.

Re: Earth Restored – 50 restored images of earth released

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Post by dylan604 » Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 3:23 PM UTC

curtainsforus wrote: post #65

timdaub wrote: post #16

I always wonder what happens to you psychologically when you see something like this. As one of the astronauts I mean. Surely, once you've returned, nothing will be as it used to.

I'm sure it's hyped up to the point that if you went up there, expecting a cosmic experience, having imagined and simulated it a million times, you'd be disappointed by the reality.

I used to think that about the Grand Canyon, then I went. Nope, it's just as impressive as they say being there experiencing it in person vs looking at all of the videos/images available. Seeing an image that required a special lens to take it all in looks nice. Standing in the same spot the camera was is a completely different experience when you have to turn your head left/right to see the same thing the image does. Anyone that says different has not actually taken the pepsi challenge

Re: Earth Restored – 50 restored images of earth released

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Post by curtainsforus » Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 3:43 PM UTC

flohofwoe wrote: post #63

curtainsforus wrote: post #60

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From the first wikipedia paragraph, I don't see anything wrong with building things so they'll look cool a) when they're maintained and in use and b) when they're badly maintained and crumbling. I'll take 'Ruinenwerttheorie' buildings over brutalist concrete piles that look disgusting the day they're built and worse as they age. The 3rd Reich had a lot of problems, but they had some good aesthetics (Huge Boss, etc).…

I think the point is that it takes a sort of hubris that's quite typical for autocratic regimes to show off to the rest of the world - and future generations - with gigantomanic architecture. IMHO a healthy society should be "above" this sort of stuff.

What we have in our oh-so-humble and "advanced" society is the children of corbusier making horrendous buildings that make the people with no choice but to live in them miserable.

Is the parthenon gigantomanic? Is this? https://cdn.lifedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/22-most...

Is this? https://preview.redd.it/hkwpt88wasv41.jpg?width=1024&auto=we...

Or this? https://blog.eurail.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Florence-...

Because I know a city made of buildings like the above is far more conducive to human dignity than a grid of "humble" glass boxes.

Should we all be living in and surrounded by identikit, homogenous apartments? Except for the architects and the rich, of course; they get to have centuries-old country mansions to flee to.

It isn't humble to humiliate people by making them to live in concrete and glass cages.

Re: Earth Restored – 50 restored images of earth released

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Post by pomian » Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 3:43 PM UTC

dieortin wrote: post #84

sizzzzlerz wrote: post #72

Missing is the Voyager 1 image looking back to Earth from 4 billion miles, the one referred to by Carl Sagan as "the pale blue dot, a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam". It doesn't have the resolution these images have but it's impact on our civilization is over-whelming.

Would you happen to have a link?

Here is one: https://www.planetary.org/worlds/pale-blue-dot

Re: Earth Restored – 50 restored images of earth released

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Post by richthedev » Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 3:47 PM UTC

dieortin wrote: post #84

sizzzzlerz wrote: post #72

Missing is the Voyager 1 image looking back to Earth from 4 billion miles, the one referred to by Carl Sagan as "the pale blue dot, a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam". It doesn't have the resolution these images have but it's impact on our civilization is over-whelming.

Would you happen to have a link?

Here's one https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/pale-blue-dot-revisited

Re: Earth Restored – 50 restored images of earth released

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Post by xwdv » Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 4:04 PM UTC

tubabyte wrote: post #9

> Collins, who remained in orbit on the Command Module, is behind the lens. Every other human is in front of it. This caption is so powerful.

If he had taken a selfie it would be a photo with every human in front of the lens.

Re: Earth Restored – 50 restored images of earth released

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Post by ThinkingGuy » Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 4:15 PM UTC

Amazing article and incredible pictures, but this one line has me scratching my head:

"Only 24 people have journeyed far enough to see the whole Earth against the black of space"

The Apollo missions from 8 through 17, with the exception of Apollo 9 (LM test in Earth orbit), all reached lunar orbit, even if 8, 10, and 13 didn't actually land. Each carried 3 crew members. Doesn't that make 27 people?

Re: Earth Restored – 50 restored images of earth released

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Post by jbay808 » Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 4:44 PM UTC

WJW wrote: post #45

leadingthenet wrote: post #36

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> since modern sky scrapers are not expected to "survive" for thousands of years anyway And maybe that’s a problem! Why exactly are we not building beautiful landmarks that will survive eons like the Romans did? We have a throwaway culture, and nobody ever dares question it.

I think you are suffering a bit from survivorship bias here. Way less than 0.001% of Roman buildings are still standing and the ones that remain have been continuously maintained over the centuries. If humanity will keep maintaining the White House for centuries it will look just as good in 4021 as it does today.

It's mostly not survivorship bias, actually, and the ones that remain haven't been continuously maintained over the centuries. Many of the ones still standing today suffered from centuries of neglect, damage in war and rebellion, and even were actively looted for materials to build other buildings from. Others just got gradually buried by floods (or volcanos, etc) and are intact underground.

Re: Earth Restored – 50 restored images of earth released

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Post by flohofwoe » Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 4:44 PM UTC

curtainsforus wrote: post #94

flohofwoe wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the point is that it takes a sort of hubris that's quite typical for autocratic regimes to show off to the rest of the world - and future generations - with gigantomanic architecture. IMHO a healthy society should be "above" this sort of stuff.

What we have in our oh-so-humble and "advanced" society is the children of corbusier making horrendous buildings that make the people with no choice but to live in them miserable. Is the parthenon gigantomanic? Is this? https://cdn.lifedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/22-most... Is this? https://preview.redd.it/hkwpt88wasv41.jpg?width=1024&auto=we... Or this? https://blog.eurail.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Flo…

I don't quite understand how y'all came to the conclusion that I want people to live in ugly glass and concrete blocks :)

I do doubt however that many people today would want to live in genuine old buildings with the outhouse toilet across the yard. It's more likely that they want to live in a modern flat built into the hull of an old building.