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Re: Vizy, an AI Camera for the Pi

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wokwokwok wrote: post #49
kordlessagain wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ngrok does something similar. This thing is a Pi. Secure it as you see fit. Sure worrying is a thing but this is to build what you want; private or public!

Irony, from the ngrok website: > DO NOT RUN THIS VERSION OF NGROK (1.X) IN PRODUCTION. Both the client and server are known to have serious reliability issues including memory and file descriptor leaks as well as crashes Guess what? Turns out doing this is harder than it looks. So like... I get the point your were trying to make, but it’s actually harder than it looks, and Vizy hasn’t convinced me their service is se…

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Re: Vizy, an AI Camera for the Pi

#52

Post by kordlessagain »

wokwokwok wrote: post #49
kordlessagain wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ngrok does something similar. This thing is a Pi. Secure it as you see fit. Sure worrying is a thing but this is to build what you want; private or public!

Irony, from the ngrok website: > DO NOT RUN THIS VERSION OF NGROK (1.X) IN PRODUCTION. Both the client and server are known to have serious reliability issues including memory and file descriptor leaks as well as crashes Guess what? Turns out doing this is harder than it looks. So like... I get the point your were trying to make, but it’s actually harder than it looks, and Vizy hasn’t convinced me their service is se…

> DO NOT RUN THIS VERSION OF NGROK (1.X) IN PRODUCTION

I don't see that anywhere. Even if it is somewhere, it's not ironic. Ngrok is used for all sorts of stuff. Stream redirection to hosted services is a thing for ease of use to get going with play of a product.

The point is that making it easy makes it public sometimes, which is fine if the use cases aren't arbitrary made up to justify a worrisome argument. It it very unlikely an agent is going to penetrate and exploit one of these cameras through such a service. Squirrels don't need to be secured. Other things do, so reconfigure!

If you have a use case...a real one...then run this locally. The inventor and I are both privacy advocates. Your argument is cherry picked and overlooks the obvious on-premise use of a Raspberry Pi! :)

In all seriousness, I get what you are talking about, but being adamant dog poop use cases must be secured is pointless. Seriously, if you have a secure use case for this it does NOT have to be streamed to some service. The service is there for squirrels, not secure deployments.

Re: Vizy, an AI Camera for the Pi

#54

Post by ksaj »

Click on the Pre-Order link. There is a tonne of peripherals and "stuff" you can add to it. This is a very impressive Kickstarter campaign. It looks like everything is of higher quality than you would expect.

Re: Vizy, an AI Camera for the Pi

#55

Post by kalal »

While I believe this is interesting project, I got really distracted by the PR around it. "scientist love flow chart" is like talking to babies and making fun of science at the same time. The fake scientist in all pictures ... probably I am not the target audience here.

Re: Vizy, an AI Camera for the Pi

#56

Post by 3np »

wokwokwok wrote: post #43

> If you’ve tried getting your device on the Internet, you’ll know that it’s typically not very easy. That is true. Doing that in a secure and responsible way is really hard. > Vizy’s software makes it really easy — it creates connections with public servers and provides you with a public URL that you can share with friends, family and colleagues. ...what if I don’t want my camera feed to be public? > Access to the s…

Will they open-source the server side and accomodate for hosting your own server? If so it's legit interesting!

Re: Vizy, an AI Camera for the Pi

#57

Post by wokwokwok »

kordlessagain wrote: post #52
wokwokwok wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Irony, from the ngrok website: > DO NOT RUN THIS VERSION OF NGROK (1.X) IN PRODUCTION. Both the client and server are known to have serious reliability issues including memory and file descriptor leaks as well as crashes Guess what? Turns out doing this is harder than it looks. So like... I get the point your were trying to make, but it’s actually harder than it looks, and Vizy hasn’t convinced me their service is se…

> DO NOT RUN THIS VERSION OF NGROK (1.X) IN PRODUCTION I don't see that anywhere. Even if it is somewhere, it's not ironic. Ngrok is used for all sorts of stuff. Stream redirection to hosted services is a thing for ease of use to get going with play of a product. The point is that making it easy makes it public sometimes, which is fine if the use cases aren't arbitrary made up to justify a worrisome argument. It it v…

> The point is that making it easy makes it public sometimes which is fine...

> The inventor and I are both privacy advocates.

...

Well, you've certainly sold me on avoiding your product with that.

Re: Vizy, an AI Camera for the Pi

#58

Post by avhon1 »

kordlessagain wrote: post #52
wokwokwok wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Irony, from the ngrok website: > DO NOT RUN THIS VERSION OF NGROK (1.X) IN PRODUCTION. Both the client and server are known to have serious reliability issues including memory and file descriptor leaks as well as crashes Guess what? Turns out doing this is harder than it looks. So like... I get the point your were trying to make, but it’s actually harder than it looks, and Vizy hasn’t convinced me their service is se…

> DO NOT RUN THIS VERSION OF NGROK (1.X) IN PRODUCTION I don't see that anywhere. Even if it is somewhere, it's not ironic. Ngrok is used for all sorts of stuff. Stream redirection to hosted services is a thing for ease of use to get going with play of a product. The point is that making it easy makes it public sometimes, which is fine if the use cases aren't arbitrary made up to justify a worrisome argument. It it v…

> > DO NOT RUN THIS VERSION OF NGROK (1.X) IN PRODUCTION

> I don't see that anywhere.

I didn't find it on the website, but I did find it on the GitHub:

https://github.com/inconshreveable/ngrok

Re: Vizy, an AI Camera for the Pi

#59

Post by nxpnsv »

kalal wrote: post #55

While I believe this is interesting project, I got really distracted by the PR around it. "scientist love flow chart" is like talking to babies and making fun of science at the same time. The fake scientist in all pictures ... probably I am not the target audience here.

Agreed, they seem to aim for parents wanting some STEM for kids...
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