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Vizy, an AI Camera for the Pi

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Re: Vizy, an AI Camera for the Pi

#41
It's interesting I was saying the other day to my wife that Google home and the like needs some sort of an AI camera to truly be more helpful and she was aghast at the idea. Maybe we need something like this with a home server so that it is not in danger of being abused.

Re: Vizy, an AI Camera for the Pi

#42
Piggy-backing on this topic -- I'd love to have a set (up to a dozen) of cheap devices watching the ground around our house, that could detect primarily, or even exclusively, snakes. I'm in regional Australia, so snakes near abodes are something we want to know about.

Naive motion detection doesn't work, as their total volume within an image is tiny. From what little I can find of people trying to do this, AI/ML struggles, as snakes tend to move slowly and look an awful lot like a stick.

Any pointers would be fantastic.

Re: Vizy, an AI Camera for the Pi

#43
> If you’ve tried getting your device on the Internet, you’ll know that it’s typically not very easy.

That is true. Doing that in a secure and responsible way is really hard.

> Vizy’s software makes it really easy — it creates connections with public servers and provides you with a public URL that you can share with friends, family and colleagues.

...what if I don’t want my camera feed to be public?

> Access to the servers doesn’t require sign-up or monthly fees. Simple! You can then access your Vizy from practically anywhere with practically any device.

Mmm... so a free one click service that puts your video stream live on the internet?

What could go wrong?

Doing this properly is a hard problem, but I get zero confidence from reading this that they a) have the competence to do it or b) will continue to maintain it as a free service.

Given that big name companies get hacked when they’re trying very hard not to be, I think there some cause to think this is a an anti-feature for this product.

Re: Vizy, an AI Camera for the Pi

#44
post #33

Why is it seemingly impossible to buy DSLR grade image sensors for diy projects at a reasonable price?

because customer support is a big hassle. sony is one of the few sensor manufacturers left and they would rather only deal with manufacturers than hobbyists doing god-knows-what. you can get them, though.

arducam makes a cute little accessory board and sells kits with sensors pre-installed, and will also quote the more uncommon sensors for you if you send an email. https://www.arducam.com/docs/camera-breakout-board/

you can also find quotes from other suppliers. sony does full-frame and medium format sensors wholesale, and they’re available through distributors. https://www.sony-semicon.co.jp/e/products/IS/camera/product....

but of course, in most cases, these manufacturers would prefer that you buy a finished camera. there is really not much you can do with a bare sensor that isn’t easier with a consumer product, especially if you want to put a lens on it.

Re: Vizy, an AI Camera for the Pi

#46
Good project idea; the demand is clearly there. I could see myself buying a few.

The same can also be accomplished for $4 with an old iPhone and the AirBeam app by Appologics. Just point an AI capable device to the video feed or auto sync snapshots with the dropbox feature.

The app has some quirks though. Vizy seems like it might be more reliable.

Re: Vizy, an AI Camera for the Pi

#47

> If you’ve tried getting your device on the Internet, you’ll know that it’s typically not very easy. That is true. Doing that in a secure and responsible way is really hard. > Vizy’s software makes it really easy — it creates connections with public servers and provides you with a public URL that you can share with friends, family and colleagues. ...what if I don’t want my camera feed to be public? > Access to the s…

Ngrok does something similar. This thing is a Pi. Secure it as you see fit.

Sure worrying is a thing but this is to build what you want; private or public!

Re: Vizy, an AI Camera for the Pi

#48
post #46

Good project idea; the demand is clearly there. I could see myself buying a few. The same can also be accomplished for $4 with an old iPhone and the AirBeam app by Appologics. Just point an AI capable device to the video feed or auto sync snapshots with the dropbox feature. The app has some quirks though. Vizy seems like it might be more reliable.

The camera does high res 120 frames/sec.

Re: Vizy, an AI Camera for the Pi

#49

> If you’ve tried getting your device on the Internet, you’ll know that it’s typically not very easy. That is true. Doing that in a secure and responsible way is really hard. > Vizy’s software makes it really easy — it creates connections with public servers and provides you with a public URL that you can share with friends, family and colleagues. ...what if I don’t want my camera feed to be public? > Access to the s…

Ngrok does something similar. This thing is a Pi. Secure it as you see fit. Sure worrying is a thing but this is to build what you want; private or public!

Irony, from the ngrok website:

> DO NOT RUN THIS VERSION OF NGROK (1.X) IN PRODUCTION. Both the client and server are known to have serious reliability issues including memory and file descriptor leaks as well as crashes

Guess what?

Turns out doing this is harder than it looks.

So like... I get the point your were trying to make, but it’s actually harder than it looks, and Vizy hasn’t convinced me their service is secure.

Don’t advertise your product as having every feature under the sun like, it’s so easy, we did everything!

All it shows is you went features > quality in your product.

Re: Vizy, an AI Camera for the Pi

#50

There are a few other, less expensive kits: AIY Vision Kit from Google, with Pi Zero ($50). Jetson Nano + IMX219 ($90).

That's the Raspberry Pi Camera v2, however. It's also a Pi Zero which has some limited ability to run simple models, but it takes a while.

The Vizy has a custom high resolution camera special built for this platform that runs at 120 frames a second, not that it can detect things that fast. It also has a USB C port to connect a Google Coral device.

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