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Re: A new way to make maps with OpenStreetMap

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Post by jhgb »

bdon wrote: post #38
jhgb wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you need to create your own tiles, I'm not sure how this changes anything. I can't seem to find how one would go about generating one's own tiles for this platform in their documentation. Did you find something to that effect in it?

Author here. You should be able to first download OpenStreetMap tiles in PMTiles format ( http://github.com/protomaps/pmtiles ) and then write out a new augmented tileset in the same format. It's a use case I want to have first-class support for, but the tooling doesn't exist yet.

> You should be able to first download OpenStreetMap tiles in PMTiles format

To elabore on my comment, I was more wondering about how I generate those tiles from non-tiled raw PBF country extracts on Geofabrik.

Re: A new way to make maps with OpenStreetMap

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Post by bdon »

alwayshumans wrote: post #16

You can already host vector tiles within S3 that work with Mapbox and other libraries. Not really sure what problem this is trying to solve.

OP author here; one thing I didn't touch on is the way that most map services license their basemap data explicitly disallows "caching" which would be inclusive of hosting basemaps yourself on your own storage. So for the cases where it makes engineering or product sense to have your maps on S3, it goes against the dominant map business model.

Re: A new way to make maps with OpenStreetMap

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tppiotrowski wrote: post #35
TurkishPoptart wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of project can this tool be used for?

I think the author would explain best. Personally, I'm working on casting live earth shadows on a tiled map (link in HN profile) and lack an off-the-shelf tile set that contains all the data I need and in some cases the available tiles I use contain more data than I want. Also, the tiles cost $$$ for each tile load. So long-term I am looking into generating and hosting my own map tiles.

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Re: A new way to make maps with OpenStreetMap

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Post by jhgb »

tppiotrowski wrote: post #35
TurkishPoptart wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of project can this tool be used for?

I think the author would explain best. Personally, I'm working on casting live earth shadows on a tiled map (link in HN profile) and lack an off-the-shelf tile set that contains all the data I need and in some cases the available tiles I use contain more data than I want. Also, the tiles cost $$$ for each tile load. So long-term I am looking into generating and hosting my own map tiles.

Depending on your needs, tilemaker (https://github.com/systemed/tilemaker) may be the least painful way for generating tiles from OSM data with modifications to it. Or at least it seems to be the least painful way of doing that that I've found so far. The input data is manipulated by Lua code that you provide, and some reasonable default configuration for it exists. Your custom Lua code could pull additional information from other information sources should you wish to do so.

Re: A new way to make maps with OpenStreetMap

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Post by bdon »

jhgb wrote: post #41
bdon wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Author here. You should be able to first download OpenStreetMap tiles in PMTiles format ( http://github.com/protomaps/pmtiles ) and then write out a new augmented tileset in the same format. It's a use case I want to have first-class support for, but the tooling doesn't exist yet.

> You should be able to first download OpenStreetMap tiles in PMTiles format To elabore on my comment, I was more wondering about how I generate those tiles from non-tiled raw PBF country extracts on Geofabrik.

The tile generation from PBF (actually OSMX) is not one of the parts that is open source; for that task I would look at https://github.com/systemed/tilemaker or https://github.com/openmaptiles/openmaptiles

Re: A new way to make maps with OpenStreetMap

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Post by hardwaresofton »

Does anyone have a really good (maybe illustrated?) guide/short reference to the world of GIS? Every time I see GIS stuff mentioned the problem space itself, solution jargon, and various movements in the ecosystem (projects being unsupported, stewards/companies changing etc) always throws me for a loop.

It's certainly the case that I just haven't built enough mapping-related software to be comfortable but if there's a resource out there that's like "baby's first GIS application" I'd love to read through it and try to ram the concepts into my gray matter again for the day when I do work on one.

Re: A new way to make maps with OpenStreetMap

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Post by jhgb »

bdon wrote: post #45
jhgb wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You should be able to first download OpenStreetMap tiles in PMTiles format To elabore on my comment, I was more wondering about how I generate those tiles from non-tiled raw PBF country extracts on Geofabrik.

The tile generation from PBF (actually OSMX) is not one of the parts that is open source; for that task I would look at https://github.com/systemed/tilemaker or https://github.com/openmaptiles/openmaptiles

I've already known about those, but thank you anyway.

Re: A new way to make maps with OpenStreetMap

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Post by c0nsumer »

bdon wrote: post #39
c0nsumer wrote: post #5

This is really interesting to me. I do a lot of mapping of natural surface single track trails (for hiking and mountain biking) along the way be sure to properly name things, add intersection markers, and create relations (routes and superroutes) to document the systems. The biggest downside thus far is a good way of displaying the data. mtb.waymarkedtrails.org gets close, but I'd really like something that displays…

Author of OP here. Is this information that you're interested in contributing, and is appropriate for, OpenStreetMap? The end goal is to build a system that lets you customize the tileset to include any node, way, relation, or tag in OSM. This gets quite tricky when considering automated cartographic generalization (how such features will appear when zoomed out) but it's one of my next steps.

Hey there! And yes, it is spot-on with the scheme for mapping trails.

As an example, take a look at this: https://mtb.waymarkedtrails.org/#route?id=6109588

That's kinda what I want but... better. My OSM username is the same as here if you'd like to see my contributions; I've mapped most of these systems.

Re: A new way to make maps with OpenStreetMap

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Post by iandanforth »

jMyles wrote: post #10
iandanforth wrote: post #9

Very interesting, I'm currently using Google My Maps as a dead-simple custom mapping tool. I'm using it to collect layers of information as I conduct a nationwide housing search. It would be great if there were a solution that was as simple to get started with as My Maps but also had the flexibility to easily add custom data layers programmatically.

Curious about your tool chain for real estate metadata. Is there a way to get a more retail-like experience and not have to deal so much with agents?

Paying a guy in Kenya to scrape data for me. Swear I tried to pay every national real estate API out there and no one is interested in talking to you at less than 7k a month and a full on lead gen business.

Re: A new way to make maps with OpenStreetMap

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Post by iandanforth »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #19
iandanforth wrote: post #9

Very interesting, I'm currently using Google My Maps as a dead-simple custom mapping tool. I'm using it to collect layers of information as I conduct a nationwide housing search. It would be great if there were a solution that was as simple to get started with as My Maps but also had the flexibility to easily add custom data layers programmatically.

I'm curious what sorts of data you are collecting and how it helps to have it in map form rather than some other file format.

Towns across the country that meet our criteria overlayed with climate change maps. The existing layers around satellite and topo views are also super helpful to get an idea of if the area has good tree cover and interesting landscapes.
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