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Personally, I prefer drug safety protocols be based on science, not what people feel, or whether or not it's "good politics".
This is what I am arguing above. In light of this, would you say the pause was good science and not politics?
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yeah, when I went (and got Moderna), I saw many people (who booked the appointment) asking staff "Is it Pfizer" and leaving when the answer was No.
That seems like a really weird decision because both Moderna and Pfizer are using very similar technologies and haven't had much negative press coverage.
Damage is done... NYC saw a drop in vaccine appointments right after the original ban on J&J happen. They could have issued a warning first, with the group ages/sex that they were seeing the clots (it was mostly women). Now they are scaring the 'indecisive' part of the population, and just making sure the pandemic will keep going. Both the CDC and the FDA have completely dropped the ball during this pandemic. They ar…
I think a mask mandate on the federal level would have required using more emergency presidential powers than most people would have been comfortable with. A president exercising martial law or something similar that would allow increased power over the states during a presidential election might not be helpful for people's view of the procedures and result.
Pausing like that causes, not prevents, vaccine skepticism. In an era of declining public trust of institutions (across both political aisles, even if unequally), I argue this pause was poor politics. Science doesn't enter much into it, unfortunately.
There have been some studies which demonstrated that experts gain credibility when they express uncertainty. Amateurs on the other hand lose credibility when they express uncertainty. I don't have a citation handy, but I thought you might find the perspective useful.
The downvotes are puzzling. Are people capable of countering with reason, or is a downvote a proxy vote for how they wish reality to be?
Unfortunately, the control arm for this study is a placabo instead of a single dose, which I would expect to be the standard of care.
Or not! But if we’re not going to use them, we should send them to another country like Canada or Mexico or Australia or the UK or EU, all of which have approved it and administered millions of doses.
Sitting on 10s of millions of vaccines during a pandemic is inexcusable.
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To an extent. Presently, you won't be thrown in jail if you don't get it. But you can't go to NYU. You can't go to a wedding. You can't go to a concert, or a football game, you can't fly Qantas...
How does one balance that with the counter desire to not want to go to a wedding, concert, football game, or plane with unvaccinated people?
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> So my point is, I think demand would be higher and concerns lower if you just made it available and let people make their own choice. That's already how it works, though. Everyone is free to decide for themselves whether or not they'd like to be vaccinated.
To an extent. Presently, you won't be thrown in jail if you don't get it. But you can't go to NYU. You can't go to a wedding. You can't go to a concert, or a football game, you can't fly Qantas...
You also can't go to NYU if you've never had an MMR. What's your point?
Just makes sense. The benefits far outweigh the risks at six cases of blood clots out of over 6.8 million doses, especially when there's a high risk of blood clots following COVID-19 hospitalization. Not to mention rates of blood clots caused by the pill are more like 1 in 3000. Hopefully if anything the pause has shown anti-vax folks that the safety of these vaccines is being taken seriously.
I am not sure it is about "anti-vax" folks so much in this case. Many are wary of getting a vaccine with < year of testing, not to mention relatively new technology (mRNA). That isn't entirely unreasonable, though I did end up getting the Moderna shot.
In-depth talk with a virologist who believes that all of these vaccines currently be dangerous - and that we should perhaps stop all of them, please watch it before you assume you understand the reasoning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyAovuUxro - DarkHorse Podcast with Geert Vanden Bossche & Bret Weinstein