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Re: Must Love Bogs

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Post by eythian »

1MachineElf wrote: post #10
1MachineElf wrote: post #3

I wish bogs were more popular too, because it might mean more adoption for bogbook, which seems like a cool project IMO. https://sr.ht/~ev/bogbook/ an open source distributed social network of signed feeds replicated between pub servers

I'm not affiliated with bogbook. It just seems like an interesting project to me. Others have told me the name is off-putting, hence my initial comment. I'm interested in whether or not that is the cause of the negative reaction here.

The downvotes are likely because it's pretty much unrelated to the topic, aside from a coincidence of naming.

Re: Must Love Bogs

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Post by mindracer »

jan_Inkepa wrote: post #9

In Ireland (and I'd guess in most of Europe) bogs are are artificial landscapes, the result of mass deforestation and overgrazing. I don't see them as warranting any particular preservation. At least in the case of Ireland peatland preservation is just trying to preserve a very particular artefact of the agricultural revolution. Maybe it's different elsewhere... . It's about as worthy a cause to me as a golf-course p…

as I understand blanket bogs are formed as the result of human activities, raised bogs are a naturally formed

Re: Must Love Bogs

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Post by chunkyfunky »

jan_Inkepa wrote: post #9

In Ireland (and I'd guess in most of Europe) bogs are are artificial landscapes, the result of mass deforestation and overgrazing. I don't see them as warranting any particular preservation. At least in the case of Ireland peatland preservation is just trying to preserve a very particular artefact of the agricultural revolution. Maybe it's different elsewhere... . It's about as worthy a cause to me as a golf-course p…

If you look at the map on this page: http://raisedbogs.ie/what-is-a-raised-bog/ you will see how much of Ireland had quite a few natural - and very old - raised bogs up until the 1800s. And we've lost many of them forever in the last half a century or so. Agriculture & commercial scale peat harvesting is unfortunately directly responsible for the destruction of most of our raised bogs (as well as the near total collapse of many of our trout and salmon fisheries).

Re: Must Love Bogs

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Post by jan_Inkepa »

chunkyfunky wrote: post #14
jan_Inkepa wrote: post #9

In Ireland (and I'd guess in most of Europe) bogs are are artificial landscapes, the result of mass deforestation and overgrazing. I don't see them as warranting any particular preservation. At least in the case of Ireland peatland preservation is just trying to preserve a very particular artefact of the agricultural revolution. Maybe it's different elsewhere... . It's about as worthy a cause to me as a golf-course p…

If you look at the map on this page: http://raisedbogs.ie/what-is-a-raised-bog/ you will see how much of Ireland had quite a few natural - and very old - raised bogs up until the 1800s. And we've lost many of them forever in the last half a century or so. Agriculture & commercial scale peat harvesting is unfortunately directly responsible for the destruction of most of our raised bogs (as well as the near total colla…

interesting, thanks!

Re: Must Love Bogs

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Post by SyzygistSix »

"to move away from the perception of peatlands as “wastelands,” “spaces of nothingness,” and into a new understanding of their value."

People who are unfamiliar with wilderness do the same with deserts. I hear people refer to them as places where there is nothing. People unfamiliar with wilderness tend to think of nature as trees and animals, and park-like areas.

It's the areas that are inhospitable to humans that especially need protecting, as they are generally seen as useless.

Re: Must Love Bogs

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Post by mikestew »

SyzygistSix wrote: post #16

"to move away from the perception of peatlands as “wastelands,” “spaces of nothingness,” and into a new understanding of their value." People who are unfamiliar with wilderness do the same with deserts. I hear people refer to them as places where there is nothing. People unfamiliar with wilderness tend to think of nature as trees and animals, and park-like areas. It's the areas that are inhospitable to humans that es…

On more than one occasion, in discussion of drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, the question has come up "ever been there? There's nothing out there!" Umm, as a matter of fact, I have been there. And you're full of shit, Person Who Has Never Been North of the 49th Parallel. I guess if one can't drive an SUV to a paved overlook, what good is it, eh?
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