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Re: Why Lichess will always be free

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Post by phoinix »

andrewzah wrote: post #296
phoinix wrote: post #289

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I didn't know about gridcoin. Thanks for that. However when i play chess the moment i smell that my opponent is female i immediately start playing more aggressively, and my opponent starts backs down. The statistics of the top chess players do prove me right. I have tried it myself many times. Against female players i don't try to play the objectively best move like usual, i consciously try to make the female player…

That sounds like a personal problem, and not really gender related. You should ask yourself why you're having difficulties treating people the same especially in a game.

Actually the statistics of the top players in every country or globally prove me right. Everyone does that. Of the top 100 players globally only one is woman. Men are smarter than women in general, but not that smarter. You can argue all day about the opposite, or downvote all you want, statistics proves me right. Reality is not something we hope for the santa claus to give it to us. Reality is what it is.

Re: Why Lichess will always be free

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Post by cdelsolar »

I made a site heavily inspired by lichess (specifically AGPL, no ads ever, free forever), but for crossword board games (think Scrabble, Words with Friends, etc). You can see it here at https://woogles.io

It has been growing steadily and we're about to hit 400K games played; it's the site of choice for the streaming community and we just finished hosting the World Blitz Championship this past week :)

Thibault is sort of my hero. We've talked about doing some sort of cross-promotion but I'd like to polish our app a bit more before I follow up again.

Re: Why Lichess will always be free

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Post by Jabbles »

phoinix wrote: post #289
foobarbecue wrote: post #278

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What you're describing is a "proof of work" system, such as gridcoin. Men and women are not intrinsically different in the way you imply they are. That is culturally constructed.

I didn't know about gridcoin. Thanks for that. However when i play chess the moment i smell that my opponent is female i immediately start playing more aggressively, and my opponent starts backs down. The statistics of the top chess players do prove me right. I have tried it myself many times. Against female players i don't try to play the objectively best move like usual, i consciously try to make the female player…

The statistics of the top chess players proves you wrong.

https://en.chessbase.com/post/what-gender-gap-in-chess

Re: Why Lichess will always be free

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Post by banana_maker »

phoinix wrote: post #301
andrewzah wrote: post #296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds like a personal problem, and not really gender related. You should ask yourself why you're having difficulties treating people the same especially in a game.

Actually the statistics of the top players in every country or globally prove me right. Everyone does that. Of the top 100 players globally only one is woman. Men are smarter than women in general, but not that smarter. You can argue all day about the opposite, or downvote all you want, statistics proves me right. Reality is not something we hope for the santa claus to give it to us. Reality is what it is.

Statistics are not inherently perfect. They completely ignore things like the environment, hostility towards women in the chess world, and do so on. Correlation is not causation and all that.

The reality is that orders of magnitude more men play chess than women do. Not that men are inherently smarter. As more women play chess, we'll see a more even distribution of rankings.

Re: Why Lichess will always be free

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Post by fuzzer37 »

phoinix wrote: post #297
toolz wrote: post #294

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crypto is male dominated as well so if wallstreet is war and crypto is peace - I'm not sure where you're pulling gender out as the interesting difference there.

My point is that if we make a chesscoin for analyzing chess games, and embryocoin for analyzing the dna of embryos, the second one will prevail because women are more dedicated to that purpose than men are to anything else. That's all.

This guy is a crackpot

Re: Why Lichess will always be free

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Post by Chris2048 »

silicon2401 wrote: post #287
zimbatm wrote: post #61

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Ads are an attack on our attention. When I go to a website, I decide to direct my attention to this website, because I believe it will offer something of interest to me. Obviously things don't come for free, somebody has to pay for it, but the issue is that as a user, I didn't agree to getting my attention diverted. The trade isn't done upfront and by the time I see the ad, it's already too late. There is also a coll…

This is a pretty extreme and entitled position. You're the one assuming that the website will offer you something of interest without any reason to do so, and that you should receive it however you want (without ads). If anything it's more reasonable to assume that you'll see ads on every page you go to. I take the complete opposite position: if I take the effort to make a website, I'll do what I want with it. Maybe…

> You're the one assuming that the website will offer you something of interest without any reason to do so

Says who? Arguing against ads isn't arguing against compensation. You're assuming what is being assumed.

Re: Why Lichess will always be free

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Post by Chris2048 »

roenxi wrote: post #217
zimbatm wrote: post #61

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Ads are an attack on our attention. When I go to a website, I decide to direct my attention to this website, because I believe it will offer something of interest to me. Obviously things don't come for free, somebody has to pay for it, but the issue is that as a user, I didn't agree to getting my attention diverted. The trade isn't done upfront and by the time I see the ad, it's already too late. There is also a coll…

That is like saying the taste of good food is an attack on our reward system. Attention works that way because it is often helpful. On a normal day advertising is pretty useless. When the world is changing it is a very effective way to find that out. It is part of the system that drives rapid improvement.

The sugar and salt added to food is an attack on our reward system - but that doesn't make it good food.

The fact is that human biological impulse does not line up with rational objectives. People wouldn't need to be subjected to ads if it was desirable - they'd ask for them, much like those "shopping channels" you can choose to watch.

Re: Why Lichess will always be free

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Post by jgwil2 »

phoinix wrote: post #289
foobarbecue wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you're describing is a "proof of work" system, such as gridcoin. Men and women are not intrinsically different in the way you imply they are. That is culturally constructed.

I didn't know about gridcoin. Thanks for that. However when i play chess the moment i smell that my opponent is female i immediately start playing more aggressively, and my opponent starts backs down. The statistics of the top chess players do prove me right. I have tried it myself many times. Against female players i don't try to play the objectively best move like usual, i consciously try to make the female player…

Play the board, not the opponent.
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