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Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model

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Re: Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model

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I think Apple will keep selling x86 Macs forever. For heavy-duty workstation workloads, M1 just doesn't cut it.

...And you think there'll never be an M2? Or M1X, or whatever branding Apple decides to put on their 32/64/128/???-core version that supports terabytes of RAM?

Re: Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model

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post #3

I think Apple will keep selling x86 Macs forever. For heavy-duty workstation workloads, M1 just doesn't cut it.

...And you think there'll never be an M2? Or M1X, or whatever branding Apple decides to put on their 32/64/128/???-core version that supports terabytes of RAM?

Until they publicly show they can make such a thing, there will be some scepticism

Re: Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model

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post #3

I think Apple will keep selling x86 Macs forever. For heavy-duty workstation workloads, M1 just doesn't cut it.

...And you think there'll never be an M2? Or M1X, or whatever branding Apple decides to put on their 32/64/128/???-core version that supports terabytes of RAM?

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Re: Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model

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I think Apple will keep selling x86 Macs forever. For heavy-duty workstation workloads, M1 just doesn't cut it.

Why should Apple care if a small portion of its product lineup will still rely on Intel/AMD? Why shouldn't they put pressure on these chipmakers to defend their position. They have both the vertical integration and scale to push entire industries to innovate. If this serves to “wake up” Intel we all benefit (including Intel). Look into xscale and its relationship to the original iPhone circa 2006-2007, that didn't wale up Intel and arguably they lost out on billions and weakened their future outlook.

Re: Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model

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I think Apple will keep selling x86 Macs forever. For heavy-duty workstation workloads, M1 just doesn't cut it.

The m1 is built specifically to sip power and run cool. You don't think apple could come up with an arm processor that can keep up or exceed desktop x86 when those constraints are removed?

Re: Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model

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I think Apple will keep selling x86 Macs forever. For heavy-duty workstation workloads, M1 just doesn't cut it.

I heard similar arguments in regards to initial performance with the transition from 68K to PPC and then again with PPC to Intel. The transition will probably be far quicker than you anticipate.

Re: Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

...And you think there'll never be an M2? Or M1X, or whatever branding Apple decides to put on their 32/64/128/???-core version that supports terabytes of RAM?

Until they publicly show they can make such a thing, there will be some scepticism

You realize Apple is designing against more advanced nodes than intel - and from where I stand intel has nothing competitive in small form factors

Re: Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model

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I think Apple will keep selling x86 Macs forever. For heavy-duty workstation workloads, M1 just doesn't cut it.

They already said they would be 100% off x86 in two years: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/06/apple-announces-mac-t...

We are still only 6 months into that transition.

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