Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years

Post by thaumasiotes » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 1:01 AM UTC

jollybean wrote: post #235

worldsayshi wrote: post #231

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This feels slightly more true than the comment you responded to. But I feel that important aspects are left out. I don't feel like I can make much justice for those aspects but here's my two cents: Selling oil on the free market disproportionately benefits those that own the means to process and resell it further. Or rather, those that ultimately coordinate global oil logistics. The global fossil fuel market doesn't…

The means to process and transport oil are commodity, there's very little surplus in it. It just requires a bit of investment, but not much. Exclusive control of 'easy access to Oil' is overwhelmingly the power in that value chain. The 'first order' issue is earlier in the process, it's that 'House of Saud' keeps most of the surplus for their family and furthermore use it to do some suppressive things. The fossil fue…

Post by thaumasiotes » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 1:03 AM UTC

aidenn0 wrote: post #200

justinator wrote: post #186

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Downvote me all you want it's not not true. Rich people don't exist without exploiting the poor; so too with countries. I'm not sorry if you're wealthy and this is hurting too close to home, better live with it if you also want to be so wealthy.

The wealthy exploiting the poor predates capitalism by 10s of thousands of years.

Post by girvo » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 1:07 AM UTC

munk-a wrote: post #241

FpUser wrote: post #237

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Depends on what company. One headed by people like Ross Perot ( RIP ) definitely will. The other that runs private jail would most likely let people expire if it makes them extra dollar.

It reminds me of the court case that was controversial when Gorsuch was confirmed involving a trucker - "TransAm Trucking v. Dept. of Labour" in particular. It's another case where company property is valued over individuals lives - the case itself hinged on the fact that the employee was free to leave the site on foot but that it was illegal for him to use the tractor half of the truck owned by the employer to reach…

Post by labster » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 1:17 AM UTC

andromeduck wrote: post #245

worldsayshi wrote: post #214

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Seems to me that corporations owning ships having financial difficulties would be a natural consequence of outsourcing behaviour. You want to outsource risk and responsibilities. So the big companies get rid of their ships and hire small companies on the edge of profitability. I assume it's not always the most sound way to do business but some should get away with it.

Name me a country where logistics orgs never run out of money or resources.

Post by peteretep » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 1:21 AM UTC

Ar-Curunir wrote: post #209

jollybean wrote: post #130

Folks - this is what we are outsourcing and externalizing. When foreign entities are able to bid for a lot less, and pay a lot less, a lot of it has to do with the fact that they will not bother with 'end of life' for ships, or getting insurance, or worrying about the lives of people who are 'expendable'. Those very nice buildings in Dubai come from some nasty labour practices. If every piece of this puzzle from end-…

Err here in the United States you have people pissing in bottles and bags because they can't take a break without missing targets. The West is not immune to predatory hiring and employment practices.