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Re: LulzSec releases trove of AZ law enforcement documents

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Post by sliverstorm »

mbateman wrote: post #45
TomOfTTB wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is the Officers are actually the least guilty here. SB1070 actually requires officers check people's papers. Officers COULD do that before SB1070 but they weren't. So the legislature passed 1070 in part to force officers to do it more often. The truth is Officers generally don't want to get involved in immigration cases because it requires interaction with the Federal Government. That is a local cop's lea…

Yes, there have been many articles and letters written against this law by Arizona police officers and their representatives. I don't understand why one would target the Arizona police of all people. Probably not worth analyzing LulzSec too deeply, though, there aren't any real answers or justifications besides maybe psychological ones.

There is an automatic hatred of the police shared by just about every lawbreaker. Just or not, I believe they basically see the police as their enemy, not the state.

Re: LulzSec releases trove of AZ law enforcement documents

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Post by astrodust »

sunchild wrote: post #23

Setting aside the release of this information, why was anyone able to get ahold of it? That's where the responsibility (and breach of public trust) starts.

Sharepoint is going to be the end of us all. It's always just jammed full of juicy stuff like this.

Re: LulzSec releases trove of AZ law enforcement documents

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Post by astrodust »

blhack wrote: post #36
beedogs wrote: post #35

Anything that embarrasses Joe Arapio, in any way at all, is good news to me.

Arizona DPS and the Maricopa Country Sheriff's Office are two completely separate departments that basically don't interact with one another. It would be like targeting hacker news because reddit made you mad.

Or invading another country because...oh wait, that happened.

Re: LulzSec releases trove of AZ law enforcement documents

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Post by sliverstorm »

Animus7 wrote: post #58
kristofferR wrote: post #40

There's certainly a bunch of interesting stuff in there, like how officers are instructed to place iPhone in nickel or copper plated containers in order to prevent remote wipes and a ton of information about gangs and smuggling. There's also other cool technical stuff in there, like how they gather digital evidence, information about hacker forums like ryan1918.com that have information on FBI honeypots and a book on…

> like how officers are instructed to place iPhone in nickel or copper plated containers in order to prevent remote wipes Idea: a self-destruct mode where if your phone can't call home to check for remote wipe and kick an internal watchdog, it will prompt for local self-destruct override. Failing that, automatic wipe.

Better idea: add an RFID reader internally, and carry an RFID tag on your keychain. When it can't read the tag for X minutes, then wipe.

If you leave your phone on the other side of the house a lot, just leave your keys with it.

Re: LulzSec releases trove of AZ law enforcement documents

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Post by daeken »

redthrowaway wrote: post #66
sunchild wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never said the informants would be killed. If a gang reads that they've got an informant in their midst, they'll find someone and punish them – right or wrong. I'm not saying LulzSec is wrong to publish it; I'm just pointing out that it won't be lulz for those particular people who catch the short end of that particular stick.

I haven't seen the document yet, but unless they went any more specific than, "we have informants in xyz gangs" then there's no danger. The gangs know there's informants in them, and have been for years.

So, it's known that gangs structure things such that any one member knows only a subset of the plans, misinformation is spread to separate parts of the organization so that leaks can be identified, etc. But this seems like it'd make communication overhead pretty significant. Does anyone have any resources on how gangs are actually structured, how well their communication works, etc? This seems pretty interesting to me, as it may have applications for structuring legitimate organizations/groups.

Re: LulzSec releases trove of AZ law enforcement documents

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Post by abbasmehdi »

sukuriant wrote: post #90
abbasmehdi wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The police is to serve citizens not the other way around. It's okay for your employer to go through your company issued computer, but not of for the employee to go through the boss' machine. You seem to have lost perspective as to which group serves whom.

That is a fair statement, as is Daeken's. I think half of what I was thinking of when I wrote that was also related to those police officer's private data (name, address, phone number, wife's name...). These things need not be shared, and the person I responded to, and their tone, seemed to suggest that this information should be released.

The person you responded to (me) clearly stated that personal information should have not been released.

Re: LulzSec releases trove of AZ law enforcement documents

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Post by patrickaljord »

sliverstorm wrote: post #96
patrickaljord wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> (others' reports, I'm not touching that torrent) This is ridiculous, thousands of people are downloading that right now and the details will be on the news anyway. > If [when] they get caught, they're going to prison for the rest of their lives or worse. Only if they're from the US. In most of western Europe, maximum is 20 to 30 years and only for murders or specific crimes. For that they'd probably just get a few…

This is ridiculous You begrudge someone the desire to not accidentally get caught up in something they could land in prison for?

This is not the first time a torrent containing breached information has been released. No one has ever been sued for downloading the torrent, not even with the wikileaks cable. Parent's post reads a tad alarmist and dramatic in my opinion but maybe that's just me.

Re: LulzSec releases trove of AZ law enforcement documents

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Post by Alex3917 »

blhack wrote: post #44

They can't go back now. Before this, mostly what they were doing was small time. DOSing a website, or leaking some emails is annoying, this could potentially get people killed. This is max level from what I'm reading so far (others' reports, I'm not touching that torrent). Homeland security info, info on ongoing investigations, etc. etc. This might actually make lulz more dangerous. They have nothing to lose now. Bef…

"DOSing a website, or leaking some emails is annoying, this could potentially get people killed."

Because the 39,000+ people already killed due to the laws the Arizona police are enforcing don't count.

Re: LulzSec releases trove of AZ law enforcement documents

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Post by sliverstorm »

patrickaljord wrote: post #107
sliverstorm wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is ridiculous You begrudge someone the desire to not accidentally get caught up in something they could land in prison for?

This is not the first time a torrent containing breached information has been released. No one has ever been sued for downloading the torrent, not even with the wikileaks cable. Parent's post reads a tad alarmist and dramatic in my opinion but maybe that's just me.

Allow folks their small foibles and paranoia. You'll get along better with everyone that way :)
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