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Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years

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Re: Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years

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Post by pivo »

mrb wrote: post #106

His ship has been sitting still for so long that you can see it on Google Maps: https://www.google.com/maps/place/%D8%B3%D9%81%D9%8A%D9%86%D... Edit: a few more story details here: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/19/ever-giv... When he rows to shore to get supplies he can only stay for two hours at most as the area is a restricted military zone. Other crew members were repatriated in September 2019,…

If you click on the ship, you can see a picture of him starting his swim back to the ship with provisions. Or at least I assume it's him.

Re: Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years

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Post by quickthrower2 »

Gabriel_Martin wrote: post #35
bluescrn wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you’ve been unjustly imprisoned for several years, you probably don’t worry too much about your career?

I found the last line almost unbelievable "It's enough, you might imagine, to make him think twice about going back to sea. But he is determined. He says he is good at his job and wants nothing more than to pick up where he left off."

“Final question. give me an example of a situation where...”

Re: Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

MattGaiser wrote: post #54
duxup wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I don't understand what value there is here in assigning it to the crew member who apparently can't decline? Even if he could manage the ship, a random crew member is highly unlikely to have resources to care for a ship like that... what value is there in assigning him this responsibility? They just punishing someone for the sake of it?

I suspect it is like assigning child support to fathers even if they were raped or it is not their kid. Somebody needs to do it and the crew members are the simplest people to task it to.

'assigning ... to fathers even if.. it is not their kid."

Say what?

Re: Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years

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Post by devcpp »

jandrese wrote: post #56
duxup wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I don't understand what value there is here in assigning it to the crew member who apparently can't decline? Even if he could manage the ship, a random crew member is highly unlikely to have resources to care for a ship like that... what value is there in assigning him this responsibility? They just punishing someone for the sake of it?

I think his job was basically security guard for the property. Also, if the ship were to come unmoored and collide with another vessel they would need someone to blame.

But why can't he quit? If the owning company didn't assign another guard that's their fault, not the guard. Imagine if a chauffeur was forever assigned to a car because it broke on a disabled parking place. It would just get towed and the bill or court order sent to the actual owner and the chauffeur can quit.

100% blame on Egypt here for a stupid rule ignoring consequences.

Re: Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years

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Post by krapp »

dzolob wrote: post #144
kevmo wrote: post #135

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Nasty labour practices... It's just slavery. This poor gentleman was forced into slavery. You're right that this is what we're outsourcing. All of the corporate trade agreements - American manufacturing was shipped overseas, and American labor forced to compete with what is often a modern form of slave labor.

And it was forced to slavery by the same people who took that job out of seas. Greed has no bottom.

Yeah but just think of the value being created for shareholders and consumers! /s

Re: Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years

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Post by andrepd »

dzolob wrote: post #144
kevmo wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nasty labour practices... It's just slavery. This poor gentleman was forced into slavery. You're right that this is what we're outsourcing. All of the corporate trade agreements - American manufacturing was shipped overseas, and American labor forced to compete with what is often a modern form of slave labor.

And it was forced to slavery by the same people who took that job out of seas. Greed has no bottom.

Exactly. What you need are systems architected in such a way to stop greed and its nasty effects.

Re: Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years

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Post by dragonwriter »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #154
MattGaiser wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect it is like assigning child support to fathers even if they were raped or it is not their kid. Somebody needs to do it and the crew members are the simplest people to task it to.

'assigning ... to fathers even if.. it is not their kid." Say what?

If the poster meant “people legally designated as fathers” and was referring to, e.g., the presumption (conclusive in some jurisdictions) of paternity based on marriage at time of birth, its not completely senseless.
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