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Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years

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Re: Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years

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Post by codezero »

neaden wrote: post #45
Alupis wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article, he did sneak off the ship routinely after it ran aground some years later. He would sneak off, buy food and recharge his phone, then return to the ship for some bizarre reason.

They had his passport, so it would have been difficult for him to leave and risking arrest by either the Egyptian or Syrian police.

That region is experiencing a lot of chaos and I'd say that being alone on a ship is a lot safer than being alone with no passport and wanted by the law.

Re: Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years

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Post by sdenton4 »

neaden wrote: post #45
Alupis wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article, he did sneak off the ship routinely after it ran aground some years later. He would sneak off, buy food and recharge his phone, then return to the ship for some bizarre reason.

They had his passport, so it would have been difficult for him to leave and risking arrest by either the Egyptian or Syrian police.

Seems like a good reason to get in touch with your home country's embassy/consulate...

Re: Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years

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Post by user3939382 »

eastbayjake wrote: post #38

The Egyptian legal system is not known for its fairness... the World Justice Project ranks it 125 of 128 surveyed countries, in last place out of 8 countries in the Middle East[1] Similarly (and tragically) the Syrian government is not known for its compassion towards its distressed citizens. [1] https://worldjusticeproject.org/rule-of-law-index/country/Eg...

Most people may think I’m being pessimistic and jaded. But I think these rankings are hilarious (in a bad sense). Just like the corruption rankings that come out.

The US gets a green square and a high rank, smaller countries are corrupt and unfair. I could fill up paragraphs about how corrupt and dysfunctional our (US) legal and political systems are. Meanwhile I spent a long time in Central Africa (a red square country) and know to compare.

I don’t get the purpose of these rankings.

Re: Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years

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Post by MattGaiser »

duxup wrote: post #34
jandrese wrote: post #8

It is supremely unfair for the court to assign him full responsibility for the ship, but without any power over it. If the court were serious about the situation they should have handed the ship over to him entirely. He could then put the ship up on the market for whomever wanted to buy it or sell it to a scrapping company. If you think this would be unfair to the ships owners this is exactly the point. Force them to…

Yeah I don't understand what value there is here in assigning it to the crew member who apparently can't decline? Even if he could manage the ship, a random crew member is highly unlikely to have resources to care for a ship like that... what value is there in assigning him this responsibility? They just punishing someone for the sake of it?

I suspect it is like assigning child support to fathers even if they were raped or it is not their kid.

Somebody needs to do it and the crew members are the simplest people to task it to.

Re: Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years

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Post by [deleted] »

eastbayjake wrote: post #38

The Egyptian legal system is not known for its fairness... the World Justice Project ranks it 125 of 128 surveyed countries, in last place out of 8 countries in the Middle East[1] Similarly (and tragically) the Syrian government is not known for its compassion towards its distressed citizens. [1] https://worldjusticeproject.org/rule-of-law-index/country/Eg...

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Re: Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years

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Post by jandrese »

duxup wrote: post #34
jandrese wrote: post #8

It is supremely unfair for the court to assign him full responsibility for the ship, but without any power over it. If the court were serious about the situation they should have handed the ship over to him entirely. He could then put the ship up on the market for whomever wanted to buy it or sell it to a scrapping company. If you think this would be unfair to the ships owners this is exactly the point. Force them to…

Yeah I don't understand what value there is here in assigning it to the crew member who apparently can't decline? Even if he could manage the ship, a random crew member is highly unlikely to have resources to care for a ship like that... what value is there in assigning him this responsibility? They just punishing someone for the sake of it?

I think his job was basically security guard for the property. Also, if the ship were to come unmoored and collide with another vessel they would need someone to blame.

Re: Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years

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Post by coding123 »

dQw4w9WgXcQ wrote: post #13

But he is determined. He says he is good at his job and wants nothing more than to pick up where he left off. Meanwhile HN commenters be moaning every time their scrollbar is hijacked by a link or they have to deal with spaghetti code at work like "I'm so burned out"

So true

Re: Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years

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Post by hknapp »

AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #3

I saw this video from Chief MAKOi (who has an excellent youtube channel in general) about this situation a week ago. It seemed rather hopeless for him at the time considering that it was going on for four years already. I wonder if that video contributed to pressure to fix the situation, it does have almost a million views. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zD-KjuGuiM

This channel is how I heard of it.
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