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Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by atonse »

devit wrote: post #15

Have they sold the company to Microsoft? "Microsoft SQL Server on Ubuntu delivers an optimised, cost-effective database platform" Of course not, it's not free so it's not cost effective compared to the best database, which is PostgreSQL. Integration with Active Directory group policy seems also a really bad idea since it allows insecure proprietary software to control your Linux machines.

Having used both Postgres and SQL server, I have a high amount of respect for both of them. Both are full featured, solid databases.

I still miss some of the tool ecosystem (like schema/data diffing tools from RedGate) from my SQL Server days.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by bjoli »

jbunc wrote: post #118

How many of you upgrade day of release? Wait a little bit to see how others feel about it? or only stick to LTS?

I use LTS and install newer version of things I need using guix.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by xorcist »

Spivak wrote: post #139
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know you can, in a very basic sense, such that one can log in, after both setting up the OS, and then configuring the domain join after installing additional components. But there's two key things here: > Ubuntu machines can join an Active Directory (AD) domain at installation for central configuration. This means it's now a ready-to-go functionality of the OS, and can be done simply without going to read a blog ar…

> I know you can, in a very basic sense, such that one can log in. Log in, get group and netgroup membership, apply GPO based access control, access ssh keys, apply sudo rules. > after both setting up the OS, and then configuring the domain join realmd join ad.example.com Just the same as joining the domain on a Windows machine. Add-Computer -Domain ad.example.com > Rather than hand-crafting one Ubuntu server that co…

> preseed files to automate the install, domain join,

Genuine question, wouldn't that require a kerberos ticket to work? Or at least some high privilege password that you might not want to keep around your preseed files? Bootstrapping trust is a tricky problem. Most that I've seen tend to go with some custom solution.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by scaladev »

lscotte wrote: post #121
devwastaken wrote: post #57

I still can't reconcile zfs in the installer. There's no warnings or information upfront about how you will make your filesystem into a nice brick if you upgrade your linux kernel and forget that your filesystem has to be manually upgraded with that kernel version. Distros should not include filesystems that aren't in the kernel in their official installer. Fedora made the right decisions with btrfs. If users want zf…

This is just anti ZFS FUD and completely incorrect. Ubuntu has been shipping binary modules for ZFS for several years now. I've been running servers and laptops for a couple of years with ZFS root (laptop with native ZFS encryption). The only issue I've had is Canonical breaking GRUB hooks for encrypted ZFS root - solved via systemd-boot and EFI for me. If you use DKMS, then you might have issues, but there's no need…

>Btrfs is probably never the right decision

And you're posting anti-btrfs FUD.

https://lwn.net/Articles/824855/

https://facebookmicrosites.github.io/btrfs/docs/btrfs-facebo...

Even if it's the only deployment in the world, it's more than "never". They provide strong technical reasons for using it.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by Spivak »

Koffiepoeder wrote: post #132
gmaster1440 wrote: post #4

Azure Active Directory support is pretty significant, means any company that uses Microsoft MDM can now support engineers who prefer linux machines.

To be honest I'm not a fan of this. Linux was one of the few ways to stay free of the behemoth of corporate, invasive crapware that is forced upon employees. By evolving towards a full enterprise managed OS (with stuff like AD) this freedom will more and more be corrupted.

Also AD support is small potatoes compared to products like CarbonBlack which are already deployed on Linux. Having "Puppet but controlled by GPO" isn't really new.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by curt15 »

nickthemagicman wrote: post #59
kbrwn wrote: post #17

Thank you to Canonical for keeping Ubuntu a free and open source operating system with long term support! With the death of CentOS (replaced by an unstable upstream of RHEL) it means a lot to the Linux community.

Amen! Ubuntu is amazing! And keeps getting better every release! Big props to the Ubuntu team! My gratitude is endless for not having to use either Windows or Mac and still enjoy the desktop computer experience!

Why was the above comment downvoted?

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by croutonwagon »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #22
Spivak wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You always could! sssd’s ad integration has been really solid for years and if you have a huge number of machines you can stand up FreeIPA establish a trust between them. The thing that’s changing with this release is the ability to support some GPOs with adsys. sssd has/had some basic gpo support as it relates to auth but not really for system config.

FWIW, GPO templates are what I consider the minimum to call something manageable, which is most of why I want things on Active Directory. This definitely moves this into "I might introduce this to our environment" level.

I would say the same but for authentication.

We have linux servers on our domain, specifically becaeuse there are certain things they do better than windows, and im a tool for a trade kinda guy.

But authentication and management of creds is a hard requirement.

The rest i can work with. We setup Ansible to handle much of the day to day config things. GPO"s might be nice.

At one and for years i was using PBIS, and whatever it was called before it was bought out, forked and named PBIS - https://github.com/BeyondTrust/pbis-open

I liked it because it kept GID/UID's consistent across the domain. But it was flaky for samba shares specifically ad group enumeration. There are paid add-ons that leverage GPO but never went that route.

More recently we are just leveraging SSSD/Chrony/Smb/Nmb to do the same, there are a few tweaks, but its solid. Its actually more stable now.

Some GPO's would be nice I supposed.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by TruthWillHurt »

Koffiepoeder wrote: post #132
gmaster1440 wrote: post #4

Azure Active Directory support is pretty significant, means any company that uses Microsoft MDM can now support engineers who prefer linux machines.

To be honest I'm not a fan of this. Linux was one of the few ways to stay free of the behemoth of corporate, invasive crapware that is forced upon employees. By evolving towards a full enterprise managed OS (with stuff like AD) this freedom will more and more be corrupted.

Linux had AD integrations 15 years ago. You just had to configure Kerberos yourself (oh, how often have I googled "Linux AD interoperability"...)

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by mort96 »

1337shadow wrote: post #75
kbrwn wrote: post #17

Thank you to Canonical for keeping Ubuntu a free and open source operating system with long term support! With the death of CentOS (replaced by an unstable upstream of RHEL) it means a lot to the Linux community.

I fail to see how moving to a rolling release strategy results in any kind of "death", seems like FUD to me. Rolling release, trying to stick to upstream releases as closely as possible, works well with Arch Linux, I'm glad CentOS learned from Arch Linux success. DISCLAMER: I'm not even a CentOS user, but I just like what RH does and has done for "the Linux community" as you call it (I would just call it "society" bu…

It's semantically correct. CentOS is the name of a Linux distribution, and that Linux distribution is dead. CentOS 8 is the last ever version of CentOS, and it's supported for for 8 more months.

There's a new Linux distribution called CentOS Stream, but it's not the same distribution as CentOS, and it doesn't have the same goals of CentOS. It would be correct to say that CentOS is being replaced by CentOS Stream, but that means that CentOS is no more.

You may argue that this is pedantic though, and that the phrase "the death of CentOS" is intended to communicate something which isn't accurate. And, yeah, that might be the case.

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