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Show HN: My cofounder and I created a social platform for investment ideas

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Re: Show HN: My cofounder and I created a social platform for investment ideas

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No it doesn’t. The appeal of index funds is that they are perfectly average. Sure, beating the index every year is a challenge, but who cares about that? The game is making money turn into more money, not trying to get 1% more than the S&P for everyone except fund managers. Beating the index by a massive amount once pays for all the times you underperform it. Not to mention: hedge funds have beat the market very cons…

>real estate has a higher sharpe ratio over the last 100 years Does it really? Every home price index looks something like this: https://i.imgur.com/7fluMBz.png (If you can find a better one, please post it. This was just the first google result) If you wanted to plot stock market returns on the same chart, you'd have to make the Y axis log scale. Meanwhile max drawdown isn't all that much higher for the stock market…

I’m specifically referring to this paper: https://www.nber.org/papers/w24112

where researchers tracked several asset returns since the 19th century across several western countries. While real estate and equities have similar absolute returns (7%) real estate returns are 4x less volatile, resulting in a sharpe ratio for real estate 5x higher than equities in a country like France, closer to 2x higher in the US, and just slightly higher in Australia - the rest of the measured developed countries fall in that range. In no country measured in the developed world are real estate sharpe ratios lower than equities on average annually over the last ~150yrs.

Re: Show HN: My cofounder and I created a social platform for investment ideas

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My co-founder and I came up with the idea for Utradea about a year ago when we realized that we loved discussing our investment/stock ideas and process. This expanded within our friend group, at least to people who were interested in the stock market. We thought it would be great to have a platform where we could have social interactions and combine it with core investment information/data. We didn’t like having to u…

Congrats, very well done! I look forward to trying this. Just curious: What framework are you using for the frontend? One feature request right away: Please offer a light mode. Dark mode is very tiresome for me to look at for longer periods of time.

Thanks for checking it out - we are using React. We made the design decision to go with Dark Mode off the bat. I see where you are coming from, we have had a few people mention that.

Re: Show HN: My cofounder and I created a social platform for investment ideas

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Congrats, very well done! I look forward to trying this. Just curious: What framework are you using for the frontend? One feature request right away: Please offer a light mode. Dark mode is very tiresome for me to look at for longer periods of time.

Following up on the lightmode request. It's difficult to switch from income statement to cashflow or balance sheet because the menu is dark text on dark background. Additionally, you may want to add some spacing between % return and current price in the top leaders section to improve visuals for stocks with prices > $1,000.

Good catch, I will update menu background and at some spacing for the leader section. Thanks!

Re: Show HN: My cofounder and I created a social platform for investment ideas

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My co-founder and I came up with the idea for Utradea about a year ago when we realized that we loved discussing our investment/stock ideas and process. This expanded within our friend group, at least to people who were interested in the stock market. We thought it would be great to have a platform where we could have social interactions and combine it with core investment information/data. We didn’t like having to u…

Cool idea. I will continue to check in to see your progress. One note: the back arrow in the upper left is strange. Usually that’s where I find the menu. My browser already has plenty of ways to go back, so that element on your site seems confusing and unnecessary.

Yeah that's a good point, we did want to make it easy for people to go back - might be a bit redundant. We are launching an app soon which will be better than mobile site browsing.

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My co-founder and I came up with the idea for Utradea about a year ago when we realized that we loved discussing our investment/stock ideas and process. This expanded within our friend group, at least to people who were interested in the stock market. We thought it would be great to have a platform where we could have social interactions and combine it with core investment information/data. We didn’t like having to u…

How does it compare to SumZero?

SumZero is focused on Finance professionals. People who are working in the industry as their main job. WE are providing a platform for retail investors so we are targeting a different demographic.

Re: Show HN: My cofounder and I created a social platform for investment ideas

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I think you can develop this into something cool. However I think the current idea is a bit too similar to eToro and especially close to what Seeking Alpha is. The UX is also very, very, overwhelming.

Thanks checking it out and the feedback. I would say eToro is more focused on copy trading as opposed to investment ideas/content and letting the user decide on what they are going to invest in. It is a bit similar to SeekingAlpha but we are focused on providing a better user experience and more focused on the community/social aspect. Regarding UX, would love to know if there is anything specific that you find overwhelming? This is important for me to understand and address.

Re: Show HN: My cofounder and I created a social platform for investment ideas

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Please take this in the spirit of constructive feedback. The tiny thin fonts are super hard to read for my non perfect vision.

I appreciate the feedback - that is a valid point to consider and we will look at adjusting the font weight.

Re: Show HN: My cofounder and I created a social platform for investment ideas

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This new wave of social investment platforms is really exciting. Stocktwits is just noise. I'm still shocked Twitter hasn't capitalized on cashtags by at least showing market data. I've recently been a big fan of Commonstock: https://commonstock.com/ it actually allows you to link your broker through Plaid and shows a leaderboard based on actual % gain on positions. That said, I like you bringing more competition to…

Yeah, I agree - Commonstock is a nice/minimalist platform and the ability to see and investor's portfolio is useful. The issue I see right now with commonstock is that they are heavily reliant on twitter for content - which can be mixed in term in terms of quality of investment information.

We do have broker integration on our dev roadmap because we see that as a key aspect of the overall investment process: decision, execution, tracking.

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Twitter is crawling with scammers and pump-n-dumpers. It's impossible to use it for investment talk. You spend all your time blocking people, and ticker hashtags are abused by people selling their discord channel or other crap. Also, if you express negative emotion toward a stock, its investors go out of their way to dox you or harass you. I had to set my account to "protected" because of this. Twitter missed out on…

Interesting insight! Do you use Stocktwits? I see a lot of the same issues you describe with people abusing the cashtag & spamming their discord channels. Working on a new discussion site and I'd like to attract a community of people interested in stock/RE/investment etc.

If you're interested I'd like to connect and learn about your plans for a discussion site. I think there is significant demand for retail investors looking for a quality community to learn and invest with.

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Hello joadha, your first paragraph comes across as ranty and even arrogant (i.e. implying you are the authority on UX choices). You offer no valid support for your argument.

I perceived it that way as well, but I have to partly agree. Here's my reasoning: if someone just invented a new icon (created it from scratch and gave it a meaning), they should be aware that majority of their users will not understand the meaning of the icon, at least not at first. Historical icons, such as a floppy disk or a cogwheel, are fair game. Creating new icons is dangerous territory, especially if you are…

Thanks for providing a bit of history and principles for UX design. It's a valid point, we wanted to come up with something that was unique and intuitive with our icons but it makes sense that people have different perceptions or associated with icons. We will likely move to standard icons or make it clear with text what the button/menu item is.
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