Tab-rs is another rust terminal multiplexer[1].
Zellij – A Terminal Workspace and Multiplexer
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#42A few months ago, I swapped my iTerm with Alacritty (another Rust based project) and have been really happy with how snappy it is. I highly recommend it. Looking forward to trying this as a replacement for my tmux setup. I like the idea of being able to hack on wasm modules. Will there be matching key bindings for Tmux?
I personally can't stand not having multiple tabs. Plus, it is fast, but it is not the "fastest" as it falsely claims. I prefer MacOS's default terminal.app over it.
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#43I'm not sure I could untrain all my muscle memory I've built up over the years with my TMUX configuration, but I truly believe in the next 10 years all of my current command line tools will be slowly replaced with rust equivalents (with the exception of neovim). ripgrep and fzf are already a large part of my workflow, and I love seeing WebAssembly becoming the universal plug and play standard. > Build a web client to…
I'm curious, why is in-browser use so appealing to you?
If you're already spending a lot of time in the browser looking at stuff (AWS Console, Stack Overflow, etc), I can see the convenience of just switching tabs to your terminal rather than pulling up a window.
So far I've solved that problem with keyboard shortcuts or other macros to pull up a terminal when I need it.
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#44You have a problem and you need a configuration language, so you pick YAML. Now you have two problems. Take a leaf out of Rust's book and use something simple and sane like TOML, YAML is a mess. See: https://github.com/cblp/yaml-sucks Otherwise this looks like a great project, please don't ruin it with YAML.
> It's fashionable to hate XML because it was used in a lot of places it was a bad fit in the 00s, but at least it's a pretty good document language.
> YAML though is always a bad fit. If you want machine readable config, use JSON; human readable, use TOML. When does YAML ever fit?
Re: Zellij – A Terminal Workspace and Multiplexer
#45You have a problem and you need a configuration language, so you pick YAML. Now you have two problems. Take a leaf out of Rust's book and use something simple and sane like TOML, YAML is a mess. See: https://github.com/cblp/yaml-sucks Otherwise this looks like a great project, please don't ruin it with YAML.
Search up "strict yaml" it is a pretty good alternative to both.
There are a million good alternatives. The question is why would you deliberately choose YAML for a new project when we now have a lot of real world experience about how it sucks. It's like deliberately choosing SOAP for a new API…
Re: Zellij – A Terminal Workspace and Multiplexer
#46I'm not sure I could untrain all my muscle memory I've built up over the years with my TMUX configuration, but I truly believe in the next 10 years all of my current command line tools will be slowly replaced with rust equivalents (with the exception of neovim). ripgrep and fzf are already a large part of my workflow, and I love seeing WebAssembly becoming the universal plug and play standard. > Build a web client to…
I'm curious, why is in-browser use so appealing to you?
Why not have your software be universally accessible & online? What is the appeal in having software that is attached to a single system, single OS, & offline?
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#47What's the point of fitting multiple terminals in a single text-mode screen when everybody is using GUI terminal emulators and tiling window managers? I remember good old pure text-mode days with warmth but doubt there are many people actually doing it nowadays. So I imagine this (thesubject) is going to be ran inside a GUI terminal emulator window and I don't understand how is that better than just having more windo…
I use tmux locally even though I run i3 as my window manager. Mostly because I configured tmux to show the current directory and git branch (if in a git directory) so I can keep my prompt a clean "$".
My trick is all the directory, date, git junk in my prompt is separated by a newline and then $, so when I copy and paste my shell somewhere, I can just drop those lines easily without having to do fine selection.
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#48You have a problem and you need a configuration language, so you pick YAML. Now you have two problems. Take a leaf out of Rust's book and use something simple and sane like TOML, YAML is a mess. See: https://github.com/cblp/yaml-sucks Otherwise this looks like a great project, please don't ruin it with YAML.
I think the biggest problem with YAML is not YAML itself but what people use it for. It's very flexible and readable for smaller files (much more than TOML - which is awful for hierarchical data).
A bigger problem is that so many things are using config files that should be proper DSLs or libraries, but no one wants to maintain a library (or create RCE as a service by accident) and no one wants to write a parser/interpreter.
Most of the "YAML sucks" issues would go away if we stopped treating LowCode as something desirable (we do actually need to write code sometimes, as it happens) and if we had better sandboxing/parser generators along with less animosity towards DSLs.
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#49I would love to see a small screen ready made option mode that uses tabs as default instead of panes because panes don't make much sense on a small screen.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can find absurd behavior during corner cases in nearly any non-trivial language. YAML is a great language when you need to represent objects in something universal and human readable/writable. Not perfect of course, but TOML's limitations can turn stuff into a monstrosity with it's limitations. Ansible inventory files come to mind here.
One can find absurd behavior in corner cases of any non-trivial language, but one can find absurd behavior in YAML without even looking for it.
Such as? All these cases with no and norwegian or whatever but I haven't run into major problems and use it frequently.
e: And, AFAIK, I believe the latest YAML 1.2 spec (from 2009) has addressed these issues.